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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Arlington, TX
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I've never used an incline meter but I can only judge angles by gut. If I'm being forced around the seat to the point that I can't control the machine, then it's too steep.
As for the highway mowers, I see tractor tire marks along the concrete skirts of underpasses all of the time and sit back in stunned incredulity. Obviously, rubber doesn't make a mark on concrete unless its under stress so when I see the marks of tractor tires around a steep embankment I have to wonder about the driver and the trip. I haven't seen a tractor turned over on one of these yet, but, the angles are far more than I'd ever be comfortable with driving. "This is This Mans Craft. He's proving this is safe for Him,Not You, necessarily! I imagine He Has Vast experience doing this ,and has instincts at this ,most of us don't." Not so much. Here, at least, so many of the road cutting crews look like young kids or illegals who are more accustomed to an ox cart. Some of the things they do seem more out of stupidity or pure ignorance of the dangers involved......almost as if "it's a tractor, it can do anything, what can go wrong?" attitude. I did see a Massey on a 15' rig laying to its starboard years ago on a part of I-20 that was being cut and it was in a relatively moderately sloped grassy cut to have it happen. The mower seemed to have prevented its total roll-over but it was still on an uncomfortable plane though I'm not sure how it happened. |
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: East Texas
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I do a lot of shredder work when I am putting in overtime in a different department where I work. About 60 hours worth in the past 30 days. A lot of it is on slopes and I am using a JD7800 or 7810 with dual rears and a 15ft batwing shredder. I've mowed slopes where I could barely stay on the seat and that the steering wheel was useless. You had to use the split brakes and ride the uphill side brakes to keep the tractor angled uphill enough to counter the slide downhill gravity was causing.
Most of the time when you see people mowing slopes sideways instead of up and down is because they are mowing on contour to reduce erosion. When you go straight up or down sometimes you make ruts that water will flow down in a rain and cause washes to form. This is how it was explained to me at work...and they always tell me that if I am uncomfortable on a slope or in a certain situation just to leave it be and they'll get someone with more experience to get that spot later. Slopes are tricky things sometimes I feel safer on a steep slope with solid uniform ground then I do on a moderate slope with loose pitted ground with wash outs. If your gut says it isn't safe, don't do it. No job whether it be for money or around the house that is so important it is worth risking your safety for |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Owls Head, NY
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Just for fun check out the manufacturer's video of this slope mower.
ATM 72LC I saw one cutting cross slope on an overpass & make a 180 without slowing down, the inline 2 wheel tractor (motorcycle?) stayed vertical. Can't imagine what it must cost. |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Arlington, TX
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It looks very interesting and impressive but not something a commercial cutter might invest in. Maybe more something a pro grounds-keeper or municipality would buy for special and serious needs as opposed to someone looking to cut as many acres as possible per pass on a contract.
I dunno.....? Any of our pro cutters think this is the machine they need? |
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Central florida
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Sliding wheels is where i draw the line.. it mars the grass.
Maybee those drivers saw those race car movies about 'drifting' cars?? Soundguy Quote:
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Pennsylvania
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I drive up and reverse down if there isn't a decent turn around area. That works if it's a short slope.
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Maryland
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Roy, That is exactly how I do a short/steep hill at my place. Low range, 4wd, and put FEL down as low as it will go, without gouging the ground, for forward weight. And now that we are getting a little rain, I'll be getting back into the mowing frame of mind. MD and VA have been in a drought since spring-time.The only mowing I've done is to cut the tops of the weeds every 3 to 4 weeks. It's been so dry, a front came through a few days ago with some wind, looked like it was November with the dead dry leaves falling from the trees.
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Location: Pennsylvania
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Yeah, got that rain here too. Wet grass is pretty slick...don't get stuck.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Clinton Hollow NY
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I go up steep hills backwards since usually there is something at the top or before the top that stops me from going all the way to the top of the hill (could be trees, property line, stone wall, whatever). Going frontwards there would be a tractor length uncut. Maybe it's me, but the tractor feels more stable going backwards uphill too.
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