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Old 04-20-2008, 11:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2008, 11:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think (2000 miles from home, so can't check) that it is only rated at 1,000 lbs. I didn't realize this when I bought it - and was hoping to use it on my 18' landscape trailer (~2000#) and, possibly (but not likely), for my 18' boat.

As best I can remember (I am only 500 miles from home) mine has a sticker stating a 1000 pound limit on it. I took that to mean that there was a 1000 pound tongue weight limit, not a 1000 pound trailer limit.

I would have no problem using the hitch receiver for moving trailers on level ground, and even for applications where the trailer is lower than the tractor (hitch receiver in tension), as long as the safety chains were attached to the bucket.

I don't think there would be any issue with launching and retrieving a boat for instance.

I will never again allow the trailer to be above the tractor when using this hitch.

P.S. I have had no response to my email from Payne's. Why do they bother to put a link to their email on their website, if they aren't going to respond?
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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P.S. I have had no response to my email from Payne's. Why do they bother to put a link to their email on their website, if they aren't going to respond?
Unfortunately a lot of companies do this.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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[i]P.S. I have had no response to my email from Payne's. Why do they bother to put a link to their email on their website, if they aren't going to respond?
Well, I just forwarded this thread to them, via their email address, with an invitation to join the festivities...
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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would this be the hitch in question?
Paynes Forks Ball Clamp with 2in. Stem | Tractor Bucket Forks | Northern Tool + Equipment

I see they have a small metal 'tab' on the back of it. I assume this is to hit the backside of the cutting end and keep it from sliding off. I would if possible add a piece of angle iron across the front of it to side against the cutting edge. this would prevent the hitch fro twisting side ways.
Hope this helps..I also wonder how tight they expect you to be able to clamp it.
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
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for what its worth, I bought a very similar item off ebay buy-it-now from mid south for around $70. I could see the same issue, but I've found it handy for moving things around none the less.
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Old 04-27-2008, 02:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I don't know whether this belongs in Safety or Attachments, possibly a moderator could help me.

But, I need to bring everyone's attention to a serious safety issue with Payne's Clamp On Hitch Receivers.

I have one of these and use it on the 4-n-1 bucket on my John Deere TLB 110, which has the bolt-on wear edge. I use it to move and position my 16' enclosed trailer, which has an empty weight of ~2270 lbs.

No matter how tightly I jam the receiver against the bucket edge (it appears to me to fit as designed) I have two problems:

1. Any attempt to steer the trailer puts a side force on the hitch, which easily causes it to swivel, so that it is no longer perpendicular to the bucket edge. I have tried tightening the clamping bolt with all my strength, and placing one side of the receiver against one of the bolts in the bucket edge, but nothing helps the situation.

2. Last week I tried to position the trailer facing downhill on about a 15% grade. Obviously this meant that the trailer was pushing against the ball, and therefore the receiver. Well, the force caused the clamping bolt to unscrew, and the receiver swiveled completely against the bucket edge. It loosened sufficiently that I was afraid it would fall off the bucket. This was clearly a very unsafe situation as the only thing which prevented the trailer from rolling down my 1000' long, 15% slope driveway was the fact that it ran into the bucket of my backhoe.

The thing that caused a lot of pucker factor was that in order to get out of the situation, I had to chock the wheels of the trailer, and then get in between the trailer and the backhoe in order to get the trailer unhitched from the ball in the receiver.

No matter how well you chock the wheels and lower the tongue jack, standing in between a 2300 lb trailer, which wants to roll downhill, and an 8000 lb backhoe, with its parking brake fully engaged and stabilizers down, gets my full attention. The steel edges of that bucket look very hard and cruel compared to my frail human body. And the front of the trailer looks like a most unkind pusher.

Other than "don't use the clamp on receiver" does anyone have any ideas on how to prevent this situation from developing?

I sent an email to Payne's tonight and will post whatever reply I get.

To see one of these gadgets look here: Clamp On Hitch Receiver
I bought one of these also and have the Same Problem.I will also try to contact Paynes in the ***** forks on monday.I agree this is a saftey issue on this product.Maybe a call to my local states attorney general might help,or a trip to paynes factory which is about a I hour drive from my house might be in order.coobie
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Old 04-27-2008, 03:19 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Sorry you had the same trouble. I see Curly has waited almost a month to hear from them. whether or not he has gotten a reply we don't know. But I think he is th type of member who would let us know. when they do notify him.
I sure cant wait to hear this response.
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Old 04-27-2008, 03:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Sorry you had the same trouble. I see Curly has waited almost a month to hear from them. whether or not he has gotten a reply we don't know. But I think he is th type of member who would let us know. when they do notify him.
I sure cant wait to hear this response.
I will let you know.coobie
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Old 04-27-2008, 09:15 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I just took a 12" chunk of 3" channel, welded a piece of 2" angle across it for the cutting edge to bear on and welded a receiver to the front of the channel. Bolted the whole issue to the bucket with a 7/8" bolt. The angle stops anything from spinning and spreads the weight of whatever is plugged into the receiver along the edge of the bucket. Probably worth $25, including the bolt....That commercial thing looks like a "one time use only".
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