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Old 04-05-2008, 11:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ironically.. every instance I've seen locally that involved a tractor wreck also involved a hill or curve. A sign 100 thousand times more visible wouldn't have helped.. unless you could see it aroud a corner.

It's a nice gesture that they are changing all the rules for our safety.. however.. methinks this was a good gesture that snowballed into a deal that will cost the farmers money, make money for the sign sellers.. and in the end.. have a less than tangible effect of road safety due to the 'OTHER" drivers.. not the farm drivers.. etc. just my opinion... I see this kind of legislation all the time.. especially for guns.. etc..

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'Tis what what happens when we elect folks to go do a job for us and then don't hold them accountable. It's easier to pass laws dealing with stuff like this than trying to figure out how to spend our money responsibly. Sorry, this kind of stuff p!$$es me off! Won't be long and we'll all be paying for airbag retrofit kits, licensing tractors, etc...

I'm sure tractors as a "profit center" hasn't been seriously visited by most states...yet. With the explosion in SCUT/CUT ownership and decline in tax revenues it's only a matter of time. I mean, hey, someone has to save us from our stupid selves, right? No offense to folks across the pond, but I wonder how much longer until we implement ALL their rules?
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Old 04-06-2008, 01:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I agree.. consumer product safety laws are making it so things like hot coffe have to remind you in bold wording and other pictures that your coffee is in fact HOT.

Just about anything passed by a committie.. is gonna be bad news...

Also reminiscient of the passed along story issue. By the time the story makes it to tha last ear.. it is completely wrong.

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Old 04-06-2008, 06:25 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I just can't help but think...

If the LE folks can see that old sign good enough to tell that it isn't one of the new ones, didn't it do it's job anyway?
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Still, if I'm dumb enough to be riding my tractor down a foggy road late at night, I would rather if the upcoming car driver could see my SMV sign when he was 100 yards away from me than just 10 yards.
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Old 04-06-2008, 03:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
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If you were on your tractor on a foggy road late at night with no lights and only a SMV emblem... you're giving Mr. Darwin quite the opportunity to do his duty... which as far as the gene pool is concerned may not be a bad thing if you really were stupid enough to do something like that!!

So... as far as I'm concerned... ya' gotta come up with a better one than that...
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I agree.. no lamps and foggy conditions would make me get a trailer!

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Old 04-07-2008, 06:56 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Whatever happened to responsibilities of the car driver? Seems to me if one is driving at a speed where he cannot stop in the distance he can see then he is at fault. What if the obstacle in the fog is a fallen tree? Is it the trees fault? I constantly hear where an "accident" was caused by the rain or the fog...huh? NO it was caused by people failing to drive an appropriate speed when confronted with reduced visibility.
Now all that said- I try to make myself as visible as possible to allow for the doofus factor of other drivers Years of surviving motorcycling, so far, have convinced me of that But even then- witness all the video of police cars with full lights flashing getting hit while stopped
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:18 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I agree 100% ...No one is ( ok. 'few are' ) willing to take personal responsibility anymore... thats where half of the BS laws ( mostly consumer protection ) come from that we see nowadays..

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Old 04-07-2008, 01:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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@ my local dealer the old SMV sign = $5, the new sign = $12.

Call me a cynic but if other drivers can't see the +6ft wide tractor w/blinking yellow lights that's about 8ft tall which the SMV sign is attached to I don't see how a slightly more reflective SMV sign is going to help.
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