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    Default Never saddle a dead horse

    I never heard of it until this week lets see how many others have clue I was hanging 50 ft of 16 in blower pipe from rafters 20 ft up in our shavings building at work
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    Default Re: Never saddle a dead horse

    Dad was a lineman for 40 years and taught me many years ago which way it went.

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    Default Re: Never saddle a dead horse

    never saddle a dead horse, refers to the way to put on the cable clamps onto to wire braid cable. Yes there is a proper way and an improper way to put the clamp on. Do NOT put the saddle portion of the clamp up against "dead" end.. the saddle goes on the "live" end of the cable ( the portion holding the load) and the u bolt portion goes up against the " dead" end of the cable.

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    Ah couldn't fool anyone I never worked cable so never heard it before had to look it up on net to see what it was referred to
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    Default Re: Never saddle a dead horse

    And for those who can't tell if the horse is dead:

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    Default Re: Never saddle a dead horse

    Hi James,

    "never saddle a dead horse, refers to the way to put on the cable clamps onto to wire braid cable. Yes there is a proper way and an improper way to put the clamp on. Do NOT put the saddle portion of the clamp up against "dead" end.. the saddle goes on the "live" end of the cable ( the portion holding the load) and the u bolt portion goes up against the " dead" end of the cable."

    What is the reasoning? Best guess I could come up with is that doing the wrong way might possibly cut/fray/weaken the live part of the cable.

    Thanks,

    PMH

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    Default Re: Never saddle a dead horse

    There is more to installing cable clamps, than the proper rotation, a lot more. Proper spacing, and torque.
    Personally I try to avoid making eyes where you have to depend on the cable clamps. I'd much rather roll a Molly Hogan, and leave a long tail and wrap with electrical tape. Or if I'm really going to max out the wire rope I'll make a logger's splice.
    There is a reason OSHA out lawed attaching a cable clamp to the main line after a wedge socket on a crane. The cable clamps break the small wires in the strands of the wire rope.
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    Default Re: Never saddle a dead horse

    Quote Originally Posted by pmhowe View Post

    What is the reasoning? Best guess I could come up with is that doing the wrong way might possibly cut/fray/weaken the live part of the cable.

    Thanks,

    PMH

    PMH,

    That is true. The u-bolt part of the clamp crushes the strands of the load bearing side thereby weakening the rope.


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    I always thought that ,, never saddle a dead horse,, was a metaphor for whatever it was to do,, it has given all it going to give.. same as never beat a dead horse,, give up and move on.. but I did learn something new today. thanks. Lou
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    Default Re: Never saddle a dead horse

    The one thing to watch out for on the Molly Hogan/ hand splice/flemish eye splice is if when lifting the load starts to spin, its possible for it spin enough to cause the splice let loose/come apart. We use the Flemish splice with a swaged sleeve pressed in a shop setting. Not practical to install in the field I know, just giving those a heads up if they try the molly hogan/hand splice/ Flemish eye splice and lift with it.
    The one thing I have ran across is that the hand splice is a lot more popular up north/Canada than here in the south

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