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  1. Re: Jinma 284 Blowing Oil Out Of Filler Plug On Reservoir Under Seat

    In addition to your filter, check all the connection points on that suction line all the way back to the reservoir. Any leak along that line will easilly allow air into the system without really...
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    Re: Another Jinma Overheating problem!

    I wrapped my radiator guard plate in aluminum window screen(fixed in place with silicone sealant). it catches the crap that would clog the air passages, and I have to clean it frequently while...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: Jinma 200 Begginer Help

    I think if it has the IP dipstick, it won't have the fill level hole at the back like the 3 cylinder IP does...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: Jinma 200 Begginer Help

    Well funny enough that red marked cap in the first pic that is connected to the front of the gear case also looks like yet another motor oil fill point.

    In that second pic, that little dipstick...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: Jinma 200 Begginer Help

    Sorry, don't know capacities

    2. If you look at the oil bath reservoir, it needs enough oil so that the incomming air is forced to pass down thru the oil in order to enter the engine. There is...
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    Re: Yancheng WC-6 Wood Chipper, what to check?

    Make sure the pillow block bearings that support the main shaft are secure and are not cracked. Check that the rotor face is square with the infeed chute. You also need to make sure the spacing...
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    Re: Jinma 284 no front wheel drive

    Glad you found it. Assembly hint: Bearing grease can help hold the balls in place around the shaft when you re-assemble the shaft components.

    Good Luck.
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    Re: Jinma 284 no front wheel drive

    What Greg said. Probably the driveshaft though. There is a disc/washer that holds the ball bearings in proper place inside the cup. That washer is held in place by a snapring in a groove on the...
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    Re: Question about coolant system

    Yep, replace the thermostat(one for the correct temp) and add a coolant recovery tank. Here is how I did mine, but I combined it with an air filter re-location, so you will have to find a different...
  10. Re: Foton 254: What does the mutual lock lever do?

    Thats weird. I am assuming you are talking about the left side of the tractor? Usually there is only one linkage on the clutch pedal which connects to a lever toward the front which disengages the...
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    Mowing Re: Jinma 254 PTO stopped working

    Are both PTO levers engaged? The 254 has two of them. The main lever down by your right ankle when seated, and the 1000/540 speed lever which has a neutral between the speed positions, behind the...
  12. Re: Convert Chinese Backhoe to Prince BH Control Valve Assembly?

    Steve, my BH controls were the same way, the control cabinet looks like it was put on backwards with the control valve on the backho side of the box. I think it was probably a 3PH model that was...
  13. Re: Convert Chinese Backhoe to Prince BH Control Valve Assembly?

    Probably the biggest advantage will be the gaining of load checks on the individual circuits. This would eliminate the uncommanded opposite movements you sometimes get when moving weight around and...
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    Re: JM254/284 steering boot replacement

    You need to use a puller to separate the steering arm. There is another way however. If you pull the boot out of the way, you will see a big nut and a piston rod with flatted spots to accept a...
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    Re: Help with farm pro 2425 PTO / 3pt ??

    The PTO shaft is located inside the main gearbox shaft. Thru parasitic drag in the lube between the shaft walls the PTO shaft will rotate along with the main shaft. The gears are separated in the...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: 2008 Foton 254 loud hydraulic bypass noise

    check EVERY nut and bolt! Chinese threads being what they are, they tend to work loose. If it has had no maintenance, you may find some of the serious stuff has worked loose, like the big nut on...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: 2008 Foton 254 loud hydraulic bypass noise

    Yep, that's it. On the end of the round part where the ID tag is rivited you should see the flats on the screw-in plug. You might leak a little oil but it shouldn't be too bad...
  18. Re: Foton 254 : RPM Gauge and oil pressure sensor problems

    If it is really cold, the heater may be taking away all the heat the engine is making. Just to clarify, RPM does not equal load. performing work = load. These things put out 28HP continously at...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: 2008 Foton 254 loud hydraulic bypass noise

    Yep, clean the diverter valve. It's purpose is to give flow priority to the steering over the 3PH operation, so if you are lifting something with the 3PH and turn the wheel, the lift will stop...
  20. Re: Foton 254 : RPM Gauge and oil pressure sensor problems

    Cover more of the radiator or more layers or use something more windproof than a towel as the towel cloth will still pass some air. It should run at around 85C(190F) which is the thermostat temp...
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    Re: 2004 jinma model 2804 with y385 engine

    Well if hydraulic ol is making it into the case, the oil level on the dipstick increases rather than decreases.

    The valves are adjusted using a feeler gauge and setting the gap between rocker...
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    Re: Jinma 284 PTO Issues

    Yea, the joysticks are kind of sloppy. I reccomend locktight for the yolk mount screws. I wrote up a procedure for someone with a moderate ammount of fab skills to significantly tighten up the...
  23. Re: Foton 254 : RPM Gauge and oil pressure sensor problems

    Quicksand is correct, it has to sense RPM to operate the hour meter.

    Diesel with a radiator and fan large enough to keep itself cool at sustained full load on a hot summers day won't get warm in...
  24. Re: Foton 254 : RPM Gauge and oil pressure sensor problems

    OK, the sensor is a dual function unit, one terminal to ground provides a path to drive the low oil pressure idiot light, so it is a short circuit measured to ground with engine off/low oil...
  25. Re: Foton 254 : RPM Gauge and oil pressure sensor problems

    Also when you set the RPM sensor, lesten to it with a nechanics stethescope or put your hand on it while someone else cranks it over with the compression release on for the first time. The front...
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    Re: 2004 jinma model 2804 with y385 engine

    That is a prime reason why I learned to do my own wrenching. It is hard to find a good service tech sometimes.

    Blowby out that breather on the case is normal, oil is not. has the oil level...
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    Re: Jinma 284 PTO Issues

    Upper shaft? You mean the smooth shaft with a single slot across the end above the splined PTO shaft where you bolt on the backhoe hydraulic pump? That shaft either has a pump installed over it, or...
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    Re: Jinma 284 PTO Issues

    Yep, 284 has TWO pto levers. the 540/neutral/1000 lever in the back, and th general engage/disengage lever located down by where your right heel would be located when seated on the tractor facing...
  29. Oil & Fuel Re: What's the consensus on hydraulic and Engine oil for the foton 254?

    Same here, 15W40 Rotella T for the engine. Basic 80W90 in the gear boxes and differentials and AW-32 hydraulic fluid.
  30. Re: 2008 TE254A Foton Tractor Gear Oil Pump problem

    Yes, you are probably correct about the mounting. As for adding air pressure to the sump, was the engine running when you did that? Positive displacement pumps won't pass anything unless in motion,...
  31. Re: 2008 TE254A Foton Tractor Gear Oil Pump problem

    Well jerking operation is usually a sign of air in the system.

    Is there a leak in the line between the sump and the pump inlet? The line from the hydraulic reservoir usually come up and out of...
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    Re: JINMA 254 Air duck GLOW PLUG

    The stock glowplug wiring is not all that great on the 254, I think underperforming glow plugs are a common issue on these tractors. Better wiring to the glowplugs makes a huge difference, and with...
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    Re: JINMA 254 Air duck GLOW PLUG

    Havn't seen one of those in quite a while. I agree it is probably not a stock jinma part.

    The Jinma 254 has 3 glow plugs that warm the intake side of the head indirect injection(IDI) chambers. ...
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    Re: Hydraulic Sump Filter

    Well there is nothing special about the screen. It is #100 wire mesh(approx 150 micron) and can be bought at many places. Mcmaster-Carr comes to mind but I am sure there are many other places if you...
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    Re: Hydraulic Sump Filter

    My factory strainer shook apart once, so I modified the downpipe inside the sump(welded elbow and threaded fitting) and put one of these on the end of the pipe laying horizontal along the bottom of...
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    Re: Farm Pro 2425 3pt not raising?

    How cold is it and what kind of oil is in the hydraulic system? PTO engagement shouldn't matter, as the hydraulic pump is driven right off the engine gearcase so if the engine is running, the 3PH...
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    Re: Farmpro 2430, Hydraulics stalling engine?

    Tha is why it is just plain easy to pull all the guts out of all the QC's and not worry about it anymore:)
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    Re: Farmpro 2430, Hydraulics stalling engine?

    Yea, you won't know that till you get the QC's bypassed. At least the pumps are not horribly expensive. One other thing to consider with it being so cold is that you developed some ice from...
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    Re: Farmpro 2430, Hydraulics stalling engine?

    While you are waiting for parts to bypass the QC's, you can easilly remove the part inside the QD that causes them to stop flowing... When the QC's are separated, an internal ball in each half seals...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: Spin on Fuel Filter

    That sounds like the clutch is not engaging...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: Spin on Fuel Filter

    You should be able to swap the fuel filter without having to bleed the high pressure injector lines.

    Most fuel filter assemblies I have seen installed are setup with the fuel lines both input and...
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    Re: busted hydrological pipe

    Sorry for your troubles. Yes a pump with a little oil in(impellar is wet) it should be able to pull oil from the sump/reservoir. provided theare NO air leaks in that pipe to the reservoir. If you are...
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    Re: busted hydrological pipe

    There shouldn't be a problem with removing the filter. As long as there is oil in the pump it should be able to pull oil thru from the sump, provided there are NO air leaks in the suction pipe and...
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    Re: busted hydrological pipe

    IF the system is drawing clear fluid from the reservoir without any air, the system should self purge just by cycling all the hydraulic functions. Any air in the system will be forced back to the...
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    Re: Jinma 204 (TY290) temp issues

    DO you have an ohm meter? The resistance from the single terminal on the sensor to ground should vary with the coolant temperature. Unfortunately I have not seen a temp-resistance chart for the...
  46. Thread: battery

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    Re: battery

    It is probably a group 27 battery(My Jinma 284 is...). As mentioned, look for one with the highest CCA, but you will probably find them all pretty similar.
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    Re: ? Re: decompression lever & starting

    I use it on every start, warm or cold, no starter issues, and still using the 2005 chinese battery that came with the tractor... It's bigest advantage IMO is that it allows oil pressure to build in...
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    Re: 3pt hitch drops too fast? 2004/2425

    You are correct, clockwise screws the tip down into the body and makes the return flow more restrictive.

    Does your tractor have a female quick connect fitting on the right side pointing to the...
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    Re: ? Re: decompression lever & starting

    +1, easier on the starter and bearings...
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    Re: 3pt hitch drops too fast? 2004/2425

    On mine that setscrew dosn't lock the valve in place. It is in a recessed area in the shaft. I think it is there to keep you from unscrewing the knob too far and getting a hydraulic oil enema:)
    ...
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    3-Point Hitch Re: Farm Pro (Jinma) 2425 hitch will not stay up

    Well if it still stays up with a load on it when the speed reg valve is screwed closed, the piston/cylinder and seals are not at fault. The control valve is obviously leaking by either past the...
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    Re: Steering problem with my Farm Pro 2425

    I have a pressure gauge on my main line where it enters the loader valve. It shows overall system pressure and I have seen pressures around 500 PSI when loading the steering system...
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    Re: foton 254 hydrolic filter

    It is possible that it may siphon/drain all the oil out of the sump. But there is not all that much oil in the system. Put a clean 5 gallon bucket under the filter and just let it drain, then dump...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: Jinma 284 and Mityvac Oil Evacuation

    Or replace the drain bolt with a banjo bolt and plumb a line from the banjo up alongside the dipstick where you can have easy access to connect the vac pump... Many marine applications do it this...
  55. Oil & Fuel Re: jimna 284 tractor ran out of fuel how do I bleed the fuel lines

    1. Find the primer pump and unscrew/unstow it.
    2. Take a 10MM wrench and loosen the nut on top of the fuel filter. This is an air bleed point.
    3. Pump the primer pump untill only fuel comes out of...
  56. Re: Leak from 2004 Jinma 284 OE loader joy stick box

    Tommy at Affordable tractor supply probably has the sealing washers you seek...
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    3-Point Hitch Re: Farm Pro (Jinma) 2425 hitch will not stay up

    Yep, that is the relief valve. The relief pressure is set by the combination of spring and stacked washers, so at the very least, it you should re-assemble it with the original washers in place. ...
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    Re: PTO Speed selector-Farm Pro 2425

    Good diagrams on Johns Jinma Website, like this one.

    http://www.johnsjinma.com/files/DriveGear3.jpg

    I am guessing that you are going to have to remove the 3PH lift box/hydraulic reservoir to...
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    Re: Jinma 284 Fuse Box Layout

    Here is a link to the Jinma schematic Erj mentioned.

    If it does turn out to be the ignition switch, I think you would be more than satisfied with the ford switch. What the failure to start...
  60. Re: Jinma 224 electrical problems....voltage regulator?

    Proper voltage is 14.5V +/- 0.5V. What I should ahve mentioned before is the problem with overvoltage is that it cooks off the water in the battery. What can happen is once the electrolyte level...
  61. Re: Jinma 224 electrical problems....voltage regulator?

    Well the amp gauge only tells you how much current is going to/from the battery. It sounds like the alternator may be overcharging. Do you have access to a volt meter to see exactly what the...
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    Re: farm pro 2425 3 pt hitch wont lift, leaking...

    Yep, that is too fine for suction service. That is the type filter you put on the return line to fine filter the fluid right before it returns to the reservoir... That is what these tractors should...
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    Re: farm pro 2425 3 pt hitch wont lift, leaking...

    Well if yours has the spin-on hydraulic strainer, it wouldn't need the one in the sump would it:) The filter on a hydraulic pump suction side must have very low restriction. They usually have a...
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    3-Point Hitch Re: Farm Pro (Jinma) 2425 hitch will not stay up

    The stop rod dosn't have anything to do with lowering, it simply kicks the control lever back to neutral. On older tractors, if it was misadjusted the 3PH could lift too far and damage the seals on...
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    3-Point Hitch Re: Farm Pro (Jinma) 2425 hitch will not stay up

    If it stays up with the speed reg valve closed all the way, the problem is not the rings in the piston, it is the control valve. The fluid from the pump goes into the control valve and then on into...
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    Re: Hydraulic fluid venting - Jinma 284

    It shouldn't take much, you should be able to apply enough with a rubber nozzled air gun tip squirted against the vent hole in the filler cap. I don't think you can apply too much pressure that...
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    Re: Hydraulic fluid venting - Jinma 284

    ATF IS hydraulic fluid... It might be a little thin for this application though. You might be leaking air into the suction side piping that is helping create the foam. On mine, there was a pipe...
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    Re: Hydraulic fluid venting - Jinma 284

    Yea, that is probably it. IF you leave it alone, it will pretty quickly find it's happy place:)
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    Re: Hydraulic fluid venting - Jinma 284

    OK, that's weird... I havn't seen one like that before. All the ones I have seen have a screw-in vented plug right where that pipe assembly is bolted to the top of the case. Part of the screw-in...
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    Re: Steering problem with my Farm Pro 2425

    Yep, what Tommy said. Pull a cylinder line and put it in a bucket and see if you get any flow while turning the steering wheel...
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    Re: Hydraulic fluid venting - Jinma 284

    Do you have a picture of this tube? On all the jinma's I have seen, the hydraulic vent was on the screw-in filler plug/dipstick, not a separate pipe to the left of the filler port. Your description...
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    Re: Jinma 284 - 3 pt lift not working

    Check the autoparts stores, Napa and Autozone carry it, as do the farm supply stores typically...
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    Re: Jinma 284 - 3 pt lift not working

    Denny, I am assuming #303 is a type of Universal Tractor Fluid or UTF? The system operating better when it warms up is a clue that the hydraulic fluid is too thick. UTF is too thick for this type...
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    Re: Jinma 284 - 3 pt lift not working

    If it is falling all by itself without you shifting the handle to the lower position, most likley it is the piston seals in the lift cylinder.
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    Re: Jinma 284 - 3 pt lift not working

    Like spiker said, make sure that valve down in front of the seat is not screwed down all the way. It has a round handle like a garden hose faucett. The setscrew he mentioned only needs to be...
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    Re: Foton 250a Run Away Engine/Crankcase filling

    My oldest brother was on the Klamath in Viet Nam...
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    Re: Foton 250a Run Away Engine/Crankcase filling

    Bob
    Yep, that was one type. The one I recall was only 2 tubes, one for the sample, and one for the control, came in a long wooden box.
    EDIT: OK, here is the model I was used to, made by...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: Ty 290 only runs full rpm

    You should be able to pull the rear section to expose the linkages, the next section, the round part, is where the governor flyweights rotate, and the forward section is where the actual injector...
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    Re: Foton 250a Run Away Engine/Crankcase filling

    How do you detect fuel dilution in the oil? With a lube oil dilution test of course:) It is a temperature compensated falling ball viscosity test comparing a hot sample from the crankcase with a...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: Ty 290 only runs full rpm

    Yep, governor is in the rear side of the Injector Pump housing. Kerosene is usually good for flushing. I use air compressor oil in my IP oil sump... Gunk in the sump might interfere with...
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    Oil & Fuel Re: Ty 290 only runs full rpm

    Sounds like a stuck governor cup. The IP drive rotates the pump and also spins the governor assembly. The governor consists of a spinning spoke assembly that rotates ball bearings which act as...
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    Re: Foton 250a Run Away Engine/Crankcase filling

    Yep, "growing" engine oil is a problem. IF your hydraulic pump is mounted to the engine case, a blown shaft seal on the pump could force hydraulic fluid into the crankcase. This fills the case till...
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    Re: Jinma 284 Steering Question

    +1, the lines shouldn't drain too much when disconnected. Also the cylinder is full of fluid which will come out when you push/pull on the rod end so have a bucket under the ports to push the fluid...
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    Re: Jinma 284 Steering Question

    With that last information, I agree that the cylinder piston seal bypassing is the most likley. From your earlier descriptions I got the impresion it was working but hard to turn the wheel... Yes a...
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    Re: Jinma 284 Steering Question

    +1, my 284 is fingertip steering. Are you sure it is the cylinder? If it were the piston seal in the cylinder, it would still steer with 1 finger... It would just take more turns of the wheel to...
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    Re: Jinma 284 new owner have some questions

    Yea, OK, I guess technically that is a clutch... Wasn't what I was envisioning wen you were refering to a clutch...
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    Re: Jinma 284 new owner have some questions

    Can you take a pic of this clutch? Never heard of one in a starter...
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    Re: Jinma 284 new owner have some questions

    There is no clutch in the starter... The solenoid(smaller tube attached to the starter) is an electromagnet. When power from the key is applied, it does two things. It closes a high current...
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    Re: jinma 224 steering problems

    You should be able to get a mechanics stethescope at a local auto parts store or Harbor Freight tools for a few bucks. Once you get one, you will find you have all kinds of uses for it... I use...
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    Re: Brake Drain Plug

    The brake compartment should be dry. I am guessing the drain is to let out water? There is a seal inboard of the brake housing, and if that failed, you would see some oil leakage into the brake...
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    Re: jinma 224 steering problems

    Tdog Where is the hydraulic cylinder for the steering located? SO when you turn it to the left fine, do you have trouble getting it back to center, or do you have trouble going to the right from...
  92. Re: New Jinma 284 Owner with Hydraulic Pump Pressure Question

    The return port and the filter and hose assembly is pretty straight forward. Drilling and tapping the new vent port farther forward on the reservoir top is a little more involved:)
  93. Re: New Jinma 284 Owner with Hydraulic Pump Pressure Question

    You could put a 10 micron return line filter into that line that runs from the diverter and steering down the LEFT side of the tractor and into the side of the reservoir. There is a steady flow down...
  94. Re: New Jinma 284 Owner with Hydraulic Pump Pressure Question

    When you say new filter, did yours have a spin-on cartridge on the suction line? IF so, that was a strainer cartridge(#100 mesh/150 micron). If you replaced it, you need to make sure it was with a...
  95. Re: New Jinma 284 Owner with Hydraulic Pump Pressure Question

    Like Bob says, as long as they are high pressure rated piping, they should be fine. The only reason to have QC's at the loader is if you plan on regularly removing your loader. IF not, straight...
  96. Re: New Jinma 284 Owner with Hydraulic Pump Pressure Question

    I also wouldn't throw too much hydraulic tech time/money at it. A stock replacement pump is between $179-$189 depending on the engine you have($230 for a higher output upgrade pump) on Affordables...
  97. Re: New Jinma 284 Owner with Hydraulic Pump Pressure Question

    Mark
    On the way the Jinma 284 is typically configured, the FEL only has an inlet and an outlet line/port, so the FEL relief vents excess pressure caused by the load on the loader into the outlet...
  98. Re: New Jinma 284 Owner with Hydraulic Pump Pressure Question

    Yep, as long as you are sure you fixed the suction side leak, it sounds like a pump issue, as you were using 2 different relief valves there. When you load/deadhead the loader, the loader relief...
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    Re: Jinma 284 new owner have some questions

    Yep, mine runs a 5' just fine. Watch your temps and keep the radiator clean. I made a mesh cover out of window screen that keeps the crap out of the radiator and makes clearing the debris out in...
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    Re: Jinma 284 new owner have some questions

    Yep, that is the vent hole on the hydraulic fill port, and at least one of those holes needs to remain open otherwise it might cause issues with feeding fluid to the pump. You might have been a...
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