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  1. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Oh oh...

    Peace, folks. If there's a problem, it's that I've loaded this thread up with a whole series of different issues (on different machines) when I probably should have split them apart. ...
  2. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Weird. Ten minutes after writing that big post I went out to start the tractor and plow the road and... it didn't start. A call to Terry and I learned how to jump the starter solenoid. Which did...
  3. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Sorry to be so slow replying.

    The no-start problem is an old friend, I just forgot about it. There's a dead-man switch in the seat of the 1850 that fails all the time for me (I'm a lightweight...
  4. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Sheesh. I just realized I never finished off this thread. The attached picture is of the old alternator. It was indeed fried as you can see from the middle gizmo which is burned out of its housing...
  5. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Yep, that's what I was thinking I'd do too (now that I realize what's going on).

    This takes me back to an ancient thread (that I'm too lazy to look up) where we discussed our homebrew air...
  6. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    I have a sneaking suspicion that I actually have two working alternators. One really clean, one really badly in need of cleaning. I hadn't connected all the dots, but I'm starting to suspect that...
  7. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    LOL. Swap the alternator with the new one??
  8. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Yup - crazy addict is definitely a match.

    I found it the hard way -- called Kristy and sent a check. :)
  9. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Wow! All those posts rolled in while I was typing that last one.

    Yes -- the alternator and all the housings were *VERY* dirty. I've been cleaning it wrong for all these years, not realizing that...
  10. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    The new alternator is in. I've attached the photo I took at the "what could go wrong??" moment where the old one was out and the new one was on its way in.

    Drum-roll.... Not much change. The...
  11. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Good stuff all... I can buy the "failed open" theory. And my symptoms now mirror Ken's, so I'm feeling better about dropping in the new alternator.

    I've checked the battery connections and...
  12. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Ah! Tell me more about what got you to the point of replacing the alternator, Ken. Similar events to mine?
  13. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Wildly different behavior this morning.

    I mounted the new fan (the old one was burned out by getting a stick jammed in it, which started this saga). But, and this is key, I didn't connect the new...
  14. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Yeah... Unfortunately I got frustrated and took the new alternator out of the box before realizing that I need a Torx box wrench to remove the shrouds. So I own it now, no matter whether it's the...
  15. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    I woke up this morning thinking about just doing the alternator swap. Spent the morning discovering that I don't have the right tools, so tomorrow I'll go back to the process of isolating the...
  16. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    I love it when smart folks are in agreement. OK, tomorrow I'll work through that Acc circuit starting with D+. I was using the volt meter on the dash until I killed it by pulling Yellow off the...
  17. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    But but but... With everything hooked up the battery voltage jumps up from around 11.8 with the breaker set, to 13.2 when the breaker is blown. Doesn't that imply that the battery is being charged?...
  18. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Pulled the yellow wire off the ignition switch:

    - Dash instruments go dead... Oh, they're fed by that circuit. OK -- meter on the battery
    - Tractor starts
    - Tractor runs indefinitely without...
  19. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Here's the report from this morning:

    - the fan and thermostat are disconnected

    - the operator seat is disconnected

    No change yet. This afternoon I'm going to pull the Yellow (accessory)...
  20. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    That's right where my thoughts are headed -- one side of the fan and thermostat are still connected. More reports at noon.
  21. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    That's right where my thoughts are headed -- one side of the fan and thermostat are still connected. More reports at noon.
  22. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Ah! right you are Soundguy. Missed that too.

    So maybe I hold off on replacing the alternator and go crazy with the short-finder this morning.
  23. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Holy Mackeral! I missed the notification that this thread was rockin' until this morning.

    And I'm really REALLY sorry that y'all had to work so hard on that "strobe" part of the puzzler as a...
  24. Re: Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut o

    Thanks for the ideas.

    The breaker sees the battery upstream and the battery side of the ignition switch downstream. That's why I'm puzzled that the machine continues to run -- I would have...
  25. Weird electrical puzzler - breaker pops, the PT1850 runs better until it's shut off

    Hi all, sorry to be such a fair-weather member of the forum. I only bring you puzzlers and then off I go for a while.

    Anyway, here's this year's puzzler:


    reset circuit breaker
    Turn...
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    Re: The downside of a tilting seat

    Yep, that's true. t'would be a nice hack.
  27. Re: Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

    I think the poor old charging valve has kinda become the all-purpose source of hydraulic lines for odds and ends over the years. Looking at those 1850 hydraulic diagrams that Carl posted a while...
  28. Re: Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

    I talked to Terry this morning.

    He confirmed something Carl mentioned up thread, which is that they dropped that charging-valve filter in 2010 -- the same time they switched to the new version of...
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    Re: The downside of a tilting seat

    Yep, but the on-off switch (on the dashboard) functions in a weird way. It basically just disables the sensors. Over time the seat slowly leaks down (tipping to one side as it does) -- it's not...
  30. Re: Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

    Yup, that's the plan fersure. Mostly curious if others have really dug into all the plumbing that goes in and out of that charging valve. I've replaced it a half-dozen times and I'm starting to...
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    Re: The downside of a tilting seat

    Yup, I like the tilt seat as well. Here's a picture of a typical slope here at the farm -- a fixed seat would be a problem...

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  32. Re: Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

    Hi Carl,

    Interesting that they dropped that filter in 2010. I can see why -- the maze of circuits that relies on that charging valve is unbelievably complicated. Anything that simplifies that...
  33. Re: Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

    Bah. I was just testing you. It's not the filter for the draft control circuit. It's the charging valve filter. Sorry about that -- draft control, seat leveling and brake tender circuits all go...
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    Re: The downside of a tilting seat

    I'm searching old threads and came across this one. Does everybody already know Terry's "bleed the seat cylinder" trick? Very early on I was getting dumped out of my seat all the time. Called...
  35. Re: Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

    Another update -- and a question. In my enthusiasm, now that the new valve was making everything work so well, I decided to replace the *filter* in the draft-control circuit. Argh! My sluggish...
  36. Re: Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

    <grin> Yeah, I guess I should have figured that.

    But sooo many of the weird things with my 1850 went away when I put that gizmo in, I was hoping for a miracle cure for Carl too.
  37. Re: Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

    Dang! I kinda was hoping you'd have the old one...
  38. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Well... It turns out that there's a little more to the story. But since the final episode actually relates to a lot of troubles that we've all experienced (like repeated replacements of charging...
  39. Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

    Hi all,

    Remember my "1850 hydraulic pressure pulsates" puzzler a while back? Here's the link to the thread:
    ...
  40. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Solved. A new charging valve did the trick. The pulsing is gone and the brake now flips right off the way it's supposed to. None of that slowly cycling down for a minute or two.

    I'll be curious...
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    Re: Tram Issue on 1845

    The "pressure on the brake tender will vary quite a bit" thing has me interested. First off, I'm struck by how absolutely steady your pressure is. Mine has always varied, depending on what I'm...
  42. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Terry Weather Alert: this is a really good day to get through to him. He picked up twice in a row. Just saying.

    I talked to him about the accumulator theory (he nibbled, saying "hm... that...
  43. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Hm. Not a bad theory. I wonder if there's a way to re-charge the accumulator. I've never been real clear on how the accumulator is initially charged or replaced, so I've never touched it when...
  44. Re: Back amongst the living - update on all the issues

    Hi Marrt,

    I think I've attached a picture of the charging valve. As Peter says, it sits in a whole bunch of circuits. I've never experienced what you're describing. Mostly when mine fails it...
  45. Re: Back amongst the living - update on all the issues

    Hah! I bet you and I have just been trading charging valves between the two of us. I've had the same experience -- a replacement every year for the last four.

    Maybe I should buy a *new* charging...
  46. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    The latest plan is to replace the charging valve again.

    JJ, the common point in all the circuits that are pulsing is that charging valve. I was amazed to see how many different circuits it's...
  47. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Yep, #6 was there. I just missed it the first time around.

    Well, the saga continues. The new Brake Tender is in -- which is good, because the old one was indeed a little wonky. But...
  48. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    The diagrams are great. I've realized that they must have added the charging valve for the brake accumulator some time after the 1996 publication date of the drawings. Where did you get the...
  49. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    I'm printing out those diagrams. Astounding. I wish I'd had these 10 years ago. I am learning a LOT about how the PT is put together.
  50. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Wow! this stuff is great!! Thanks!

    Yep, I'm planning to replace the two L101 L connectors for sure, they're really bent. I'm not sure what's going to happen when I pull the hoses off. I have...
  51. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    I'll kinda hang loose on the hoses and see what I discover when I take 'em off. Fingers crossed, they'll be OK.

    I'd be curious if anybody with an 1845 or 1850 manual has a hydraulic diagram in...
  52. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Hm. Here's a picture and a related question. As I look at the brake tender that is gonna get replaced, there are two hoses (the ones with "101" and "73" on them) that got clobbered. The two elbow...
  53. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Count me in on the Terry Fan Club. We should all head out there for his retirement party, whenever it is.
  54. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Hi all,

    Talked to Terry after the "Monday rush" died down (first time I called right at 9:15am and their poor phone system was melting under the number of calls).

    Terry said that the first...
  55. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Hi folks. Thanks for the thoughts...

    - the relief valve has been a problem child on this machine for several years. I think I'm on my 4th or 5th rebuild (I think mostly because it dies during...
  56. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Dang, that simple fix didn't pan out. I reseated the filter and bled it again. Still pulses.

    I kinda like the "bad filter" idea. Unfortunately this is the last filter in the box so I can't try...
  57. Re: 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Thanks for the tip. I'll have a go at reseating that filter tomorrow and see what happens. Bleeding didn't have any air in it, but there's a lot more oomph when the PT is actually running rather...
  58. 1850 Hydraulic pressure pulsates - any theories for cause?

    Hi all,

    I've just laid down a huge time-consuming piece of volunteer work which means I have a lot more time to get in trouble with my 1850. :)

    So today I decided to do the routine maintenance...
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    Re: URGENT NEED FOR 1445 CHARGING VALVE

    Fascinating. How much oil dripped into the tub what that drain was open? I'm losing what I consider to be "a lot" (ie, a puddle on the garage floor every day), and "more than there used to be"...
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    Re: URGENT NEED FOR 1445 CHARGING VALVE

    Thanks! Good to know. Question about that drain tube. I just got the valve assembly (no drain tube) -- I guess I was assuming this was a "take all the stuff off the old gizmo and put it in the...
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    Re: URGENT NEED FOR 1445 CHARGING VALVE

    This seems to be the week for charging valves. I've got a new one for my 1850 that needs to be installed. Here's an installation trivia question -- does that rascal need to be bled after it's...
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    Re: How does a 4x6 Gator do at snow plowing?

    Very nice. But up here in Wisconsin we don't call that "snow" we call that "a dusting" and generally don't bother to clear it.

    The Gator works fine for that kinda stuff (perfectly level ground,...
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    Snow Equipment Owning/Operating Re: Pictures of your snow weapons

    Here's a picture of my TracDor, The Snowinator;

    http://www.tracdor.com/TracDorTheSnowinator.jpg

    and here's a video of that lad in action:

    YouTube - Big Snow 2009

    the video's from a couple...
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    Any experience with "lighter" tire foam?

    Hi all,

    I was at the tire place today and the sales person pitched me tire-foaming, saying that the new stuff is way lighter than the old foam. He's going to get me some more info and call me,...
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    Re: How does a 4x6 Gator do at snow plowing?

    I've got pretty much the same Gator -- a couple years older, gas engine. I have to agree with the "not so great for plowing snow" crowd. I struggled with it for years and finally got in the habit...
  66. Thread: Stuck

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    Re: Stuck

    My signature photo says it all. That tree didn't survive the chainsaw, fersure. Neither did the armrest on that side of the seat... Kinda wasn't paying attention.

    I like the crab around to the...
  67. Re: Any way to air up dualies easier (mike or alta?)

    I got nothin' for ya. At any given time, I'm usually running at least one of the "inner" tires flat. Then comes the moment of enthusiasm where I fire up the air-wrench, yank the outer tires off and...
  68. Re: Need to dig a 5x5x6-foot hole - can I do it with the grapple bucket?

    To WoodlandFarm's point -- if you have a choice in life between being really smart and being really lucky...

    wait for it...

    pick "lucky"

    in my case, I'm just a regular geek who just happened...
  69. Re: Need to dig a 5x5x6-foot hole - can I do it with the grapple bucket?

    LOL...

    it's not entirely consistent... but hey, we've planted 150 acres of prairie, cleared another 20 or so of existing prairie, fixed up about 30 acres of woods and another 15 of wetland.
    ...
  70. Need to dig a 5x5x6-foot hole - can I do it with the grapple bucket?

    Ok, this is the nuttiest project I've taken on here at the farm -- putting up a 100' radio tower for ham-radio and microwave data antennas.

    I've got me a bead on a nifty 100' self-supporting tower...
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    Snow Re: Tire Chains on PT-425 for Snow Plowing

    Ah! Thanks MossRoad.

    That's a neat picture, and proves the "worth 1000 words" adage. What a great idea.
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    Snow Re: Tire Chains on PT-425 for Snow Plowing

    Sounds like a great idea...

    Any chance you could take another run at attaching the photo? The name's showing up, but it's just text. I have a geek theory that goes like this -- try taking the...
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    Snow Re: Tire Chains on PT-425 for Snow Plowing

    Wow, cool post Sedgewick! Great pictures.

    I will have to go kick those tires, but I think they're solid on my blade (I won't be able to do that for a couple days, I'm "in town" for a few days...
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    Snow Re: Tire Chains on PT-425 for Snow Plowing

    yep, that's the 84" blade. the folks on the forum helped me debate which one, but i can't find the thread. i was waffling between this one and the 96" blade. probably woulda bought the 96" but it...
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    Snow Re: Tire Chains on PT-425 for Snow Plowing

    I gotta agree with all of the "pathetic" comments -- it's been reaally dry here in Wisconsin too. I think it's because I went ahead and bought that cool blade for the PT. here's a link to Marcie's...
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    Re: Hydraulic leak - Newbie question

    yeah yeah... shoulda cleaned up before i took that photo. :)

    That greasy thing is the fitting that goes into the hydraulic cylinder -- so the cylinder is above and to the left, and the plate...
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    Re: Hydraulic leak - Newbie question

    Which gets me back to the original question -- which way is tight? Do I want to make the two nuts further apart, or closer together?
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    Hydraulic leak - Newbie question

    I've developed what I hope is a minor leak at the place where the hose meets the cylinder on the gizmo that locks the implement in place. Not a real big deal, since it's only under pressure when...
  79. Re: Is anyone else having lots of problems with an 1850?

    I've been learning the limits of my PT. I've found that it's easy to exceed them, but if I go a little easy I can keep my machine running a lot longer between repair stops. Tires are a good example...
  80. Re: Is anyone else having lots of problems with an 1850?

    I've got an 1850 -- hydraulic failures "yes", alternator failures "no", hours - 140
  81. Re: Is anyone else having lots of problems with an 1850?

    None of these issues take long to repair -- the seals problem we've just been talking about probably took a total of about 15-20 minutes of actual repair time.

    But it took several days to...
  82. Re: Is anyone else having lots of problems with an 1850?

    That gizmo failed for me too -- not quite as spectacular in terms of oil flow, but seals blown. I think I'm sitting at about 150 hours on my 1850.
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    Re: Cooling Filter for Deutz (1430-1845-1850)

    Yep, I'm with the "clean the air" crowd. My plan is to rig up something like JJ's got next summer, but I'm keeping a sharp eye on your project Charlie. Keep us posted on that one.
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    Re: Cooling Filter for Deutz (1430-1845-1850)

    What we're starting to describe is similar to the "user groups" that are nurtured in the information systems world (and I'm sure others, that's just the one I'm familiar with).

    They do several...
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    Re: Cooling Filter for Deutz (1430-1845-1850)

    I wonder if they'd be interested in selling us the PT portion of the business. Git th'dang things workin' we could.
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    Re: Cooling Filter for Deutz (1430-1845-1850)

    I'm not surprised to hear that Charlie. But they must be losing a lot of prospective customers who do a Google search on Power-Trac and find this forum is the number-2 result, right under the PT...
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    Re: Cooling Filter for Deutz (1430-1845-1850)

    One of the things that amazes me is the huge opportunity this discussion board represents to PT. And how diligently they ignore it.

    I've spent the last 15 years building the Internet in one way...
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    Re: Brush Hoggin questions

    Actually, the mower on the Kubota in this picture is a flail -- going through some pretty tall stuff;

    http://prairie.haven.com/uploads/img44c672cf80f3e.jpg

    It's rated to go through 2-inch...
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    Re: Seeking long term reliability information

    I'll refine BobRip's post -- a 5 is really good, a 0 is really bad.

    I'd give my 1850 a 1 on that scale -- it's really unreliable compared to all the other cylinder-based devices.

    The Kubota...
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    Re: Brush Hoggin questions

    I use the brush mower on slopes a fair amount. Here are a few examples of mowing projects -- in most cases you have to scroll down a ways, as these are weekly journal-entries in Marcie's blog
    ...
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    Re: Winter snow pictures

    Yup, I'm pretty perky about the blade. Kristie gave me a wink and said I'd be well advised to wait until they got back from Thanksgiving vacation before completing the order. Later in the day I...
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    Winter snow pictures

    Ah! We got a nice 10-incher last weekend, Marcie took some cool pictures and stuck them in her blog about the farm, so I thought I'd take the opportunity to kick off the (sometimes) annual winter...
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    Re: Least used attachment

    My least (not leased) used attachment is the tree shear. I had this great idea that I'd be able to speed up the task of clear jillions of little brushy trees out of our wooded areas. Here's a link...
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    Re: Cooling Filter for Deutz (1430-1845-1850)

    'seems like Charlie's winter-time project might do the trick -- i'm wondering if it's as simple as using 5-gallon buckets to get to the rear screen. if one bucket isn't long enough to reach, just...
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    Re: Cooling Filter for Deutz (1430-1845-1850)

    I sure take my time coming back to this forum. But several months (and 20k miles on airplanes) and back I am.

    Charlie! What a cool gizmo! But oh, what a pain to have to take that thing off...
  96. Re: 1850 (maybe 1845 too) - Replacement oil cooler

    i got through the sales guy at the local distributorship this morning and he forwarded me an email from an engineer at Deutz, and a drawing. since the drawing's a PDF, here's a link to it (i don't...
  97. Re: 1850 (maybe 1845 too) - Replacement oil cooler

    i'm happy to be the guinea pig to see whether this fixes the overheating problem -- at this time of the year, i can recreate the problem in a heartbeat. i was sooo glad to have the Kubota to fall...
  98. Re: 1850 (maybe 1845 too) - Replacement oil cooler

    i got the sense (from the local distributor) that Powertrac may have specified the wrong engine for these machines. the first time i contacted them, the parts guy went to the sales guy who told the...
  99. 1850 (maybe 1845 too) - Replacement oil cooler

    hi gang,

    i'm following up on a comment made in a post about how bad the 18xx's are for overheating.

    it turns out that there is indeed an "Ag oil cooler" that can be ordered from Deutz that may...
  100. Re: Question about disassembling the accumulator

    I've never had trouble with an O-ring before -- but that white one isn't stretchy rubber, it's more like plastic. Very little "give" at all. Does the warm hydraulic fluid soften it up?
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