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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Yep, you are unique, which is sort of like being special. :cool:
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Looks like IslandTractor answered this already. You'll be happy with the Mahindra.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Now that was a tough decision. For sure you will use the tractor much more. I had a 600+ HP 200 mph street car that I just sold. I felt that it was just too dangerous on the street if you actually...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    You really need a tractor for each task. Removing a mower to put on a post hole digger is such a waste of time. And it is handy to have a small SCUT for yard tasks and a full size tractor for big...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    More likely the dealer was overstocked with 4' mowers. ;)

    I ran a 6' Vrisimo flail behind a Max25 this summer and it handled it just fine, but we do mow that field fairly often so we are only...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    If you do decide to swap to a HST, regardless of whatever promotion Mahindra may be running (30 day trial or whatever) or not, most dealers will swap you out to another model if you do it right away....
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    You know, all you HST guys, some people really prefer a shuttle transmission so let's be careful to not assume what we enjoy is the only good choice. I'm an HST convert at this point as well, but...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    MSRP is roughly $3950 for blower/mount kit for the Max22/25 plus freight and whatever time the dealer charges to install. They are really nice.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Yes, it is a nice setup.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    My point being that the any Max can compare with a TLB or just a tractor-loader. A person might buy a Max without a backhoe with no worries if one is needed later. So when you said we should not...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    So how do we compare when we mount the backhoe on the backhoe-ready Max22 or Max25? Do we then compare to the BX25 or the BX2660 with a backhoe attachment added?
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Thanks for the info. The Mahindra dealer can order in whatever backhoe bucket you want from the sizes available. The ML202 loaders have 50" front loader buckets, whether on a Max22 or Max25. Perhaps...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    It actually does cost more to ship it to New York, but not $2500. How are these both configured? Are they both with backhoe? Any mowers involved? Did you get the 5 year warranty on the Kubota,...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    The structural difference between the BX and the Max is substantial. Just lay down underneath one and look up at the underbelly of each and see what you think. Look at the plastic fan underneath the...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Not even close to a general consensus on that price spread. ;) I suppose if you find a Kubota dealer with real slim margins and a Mahindra dealer with real fat margins, but that isn't a way to...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Snowback,

    Great input, thanks for taking the time! Input from non-dealers is very helpful.

    Had an almost exact sale here this week. In fact before I saw that you were from Texas, I thought...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    And Galen is a top notch dealer. I'd buy from him!
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    I don't even understand my equation! :o


    I'd hate to be a Kubota dealer with 2 other dealers within 12 miles. Excessive from a dealers perspective. Ideally a dealer every 50 miles gives everyone...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    That made me laugh!!! You guys have a great sense of humor.

    But to get technical, to determine a SCUT, you take the difference between the front and rear wheel diameters and cube it, then divide...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    I have not driven the small LS tractor or looked it over carefully, so I can't really comment on it fairly. They do use a Mitsubishi engine in their small tractor, and that is a good thing. I've had...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    There are many good dealers, but I take that as a compliment and thank you!

    Some of our outstanding dealers just haven't embraced the Internet much yet, so you won't see them on TBN, but they...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Strap? It was a metal pole covered with an old sling strap to make it look like a strap. The truck was pushing the Max actually. We had to add the tractor on the back of the truck though so the...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    That's why we had the brakes set on the Freightliner, we didn't want to get ran over. :laughing:
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    If I had a 3% grade handy, I'd try it. :thumbsup:

    It would be a totally different test. A rolling load isn't that hard to move. I'd suspect most any SCUT can move what we did, maybe not in high...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    From the bottom up. I'm surprised I'm a Massey dealer also. Massey would also be surprised. Since I am not. I do have an old Massey I mow my orchard with, made in Italy by Landini, and it's a great...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    I assume you mean under the belly where the heavy duty backhoe and loader structure is pictured. About 8.5" at the low point. The drawbar is lower since Mahindra uses a normal tractor drawbar....
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Here is the underside of a Max 25 with the loader installed. Notice the heavy rails installed. While the idea is to make it structurally bullet proof for the loader and/or backhoe, it gives us an...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    I knew someone would catch that. We should have had the belt on. Notice the tractor on the truck uses invisible chains to secure itself.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Just when we thought we had this topic thoroughly covered, you mix the brands on us! Well done. :thumbsup:
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Sorry LD1 for the confusion. The GC photos were taken at a comparison event and I just have them on file.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Here is a Max 25 in high range, 2wd pulling a 25,000 lbs rolling load in gravel.

    Mahindra Max 25 pulls 25,000 lbs - YouTube
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    The GC isn't here, and we did not take pictures of the three together. I think you saw a GC side by side with a Max, did I post that? I don't think anyone is arguing that a GC is other than a SCUT,...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    The Max has a drawbar like a standard tractor, because it is a standard tractor, just shrunk in the dryer a little. :) And note the standard 3-point with the sway chains on the outside, normal...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    The filter is actually higher than it looks in the picture, certainly not a low point. And with a loader installed it gets a protective wrap. Also, the ground clearance is actually decent.

    I...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    GC on left, Max on right. Obviously neither are designed to be rock crawlers or timber harvesters, but a plastic fan and totally unshrouded driveline has no place under a tractor that is used off of...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    LD1,
    I don't have a B2620 available, since I'm not a Kubota dealer. I have a BX here we are doing a service on. Perhaps we can snap a picture or two of it.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    You can see here that the Max is really in the same basic size category as the GC. Just a tiny bit larger. Do note the higher seat but lower ROPS on the GC. Not sure how a 6' tall guy would handle a...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    The 3616HST is marketed directly at you Steve! :thumbsup:

    More seriously, the 3016/3616 are what I might call a medium frame compact. It's my term, and I like to use it for 25-40 HP tractors that...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    LD1,

    You are a pretty friendly guy with which to debate anyway, and you aren't trying to make this into an international conspiracy, so we can chat some more on this. I don't see a problem,...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    The CK20S would probably be more comparable to the Max 28 in size and capacities, just short on HP, but probably heavier. We do not have much Kioti competition in our particular area so I have not...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    I have had several guys come in to my dealership to see the Max for themselves based on this thread. So, if someone wants to continue the debate, it sure does not hurt Mahindra, but it does get old....
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    I was at a tractor show with an engineer from Mitsubishi, and in some slack time we were discussing some of the differences in the models that are sold in Japan and the models made for the USA. He...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    LD1, I think that is his handle, made similar points as you. But he kept the insults to a minimum and basically just hurled a few at Mahindra Corporate. I can appreciate his posts, even though we do...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    It was the Mahindra Marketing people, but had you not been wearing your tin-foil hat and observing those black helicopters, you would have never found out. Foiled again....sorry, that was bad....:o
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    You have my vote on that. :thumbsup:
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Congrats on the purchase. What a great machine the Max 25 is! Don't worry about the bickering, it only comes up occasionally when someone gets a burr under his saddle. This sitet is very well...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    So the FTTB that gets suckered into buying a Max by evil conspiracy propagated on the public by Mahindra is also going to have to deal with the problem of using standard implements? When will this...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    I agree. I only beat on the dead horse a little as it rankles a little being called a liar and a cheat when you base your life on integrity.

    We should put it to rest and get on with better things.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    There are no clear guidelines. In size, manueverability, etc., it is closest to a SCUT. By the fact that it is a traditional tractor, not of lawn tractor design heritage, you might call it a CUT. It...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    The narrow eye on the rod end is the key I bet, the load needed to be spread out wide I'd think, toward where the pin was supported on it's ends.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Never seen that happen, but a drilled pin would be weaker if not sized correctly. I have seen large backhoe pins drilled like this also. Did you break more than one? We've not seen any break.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    All 15/16 series and Max models are built in Japan. I've been to the plant as a guest of Mitsubishi and Mahindra with a group of dealers a couple years ago. Fun trip.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Seems like $2724 is a pretty big spread when the quality of the items are very arguably similar. In a "blind taste test" I think many people might chose the Mahindra over the Kubota, so you really...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    You get one point for using a cool word, "obviates". But the pin does not rotate in the bucket, so it only needs to be able to stay in place, hence no need for replaceable bushings or grease between...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Might be the smartest answer so far! Thanks. :thumbsup:
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    I understand your points, even if I disagree with each one! But that is OK. It is the "dishonest, deceptive, shady" nonsense that is silly and detracts from an otherwise good discussion.

    Kubota...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    LD1,
    You know, words mean something, even when you are just behind a keyboard. "Dishonest", "deceptive", and in a later post, "shady" are words you use for Mahindra because they are defining the Max...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    Good thoughts here. I think Mahindra has always went after the "lifts more, pulls more, pushes more" marketing and production angle, so when Mahindra defines scut, this is what it looks like. Barely...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    The Max 22 is closest. The BX25 has 23HP at 3200 rpm, the Max 22 has 22 HP at 2500 rpm. The Max 22 can be had with or without a backhoe.

    Any of the Max models can have a backhoe or not. That is...
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    I sent you a PM.
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    Buying Advice Re: kobota bx25 vs mahindra max 25

    A Mahindra dealer that isn't going to stock any Max series has me totally baffled. I suspect his economy will continue to be bad. I won't sell you a tractor as I am 3000 miles away, but I sent you a...
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