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  1. Re: Question on 1643 loader?? And tractor

    I had a 1540 Powershuttle with loader an now own a 1643 Hydro with loader.

    I liked the 1540 and its loader, but the one thing about it that completely outclasses the 1643 loader is the...
  2. Re: What In The Korean World is the grease Zerk Size On 1736. Front Axle

    Glad I wasn't the only one. My 1643 has a few bad fittings and it has been IMPOSSIBLE to find replacements. I ended up tapping the hole to convert it to another thread so I can use fittings that 98%...
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    Re: Massey hydro HST pedals

    I had a 1540 Powershuttle before this 1643 Hydro. Both tractors have been outstanding.

    1540 Pros: best starting tractor I've ever seen. Quietest tractor ever. Floor mounted loader joystick worked...
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    Re: MF 1742 Not Happy With It

    Agreed. We have numerous tractors of all stripes and ages on our farm. Some truly do need to be babied, but that's because they weren't designed or matched well to the tractors they were installed...
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    Re: MF 1742 Not Happy With It

    It's my experience with my 1643 that it will exceed the lift ratings of its loader. I've lifted large round bales that are 1,600-1,700lbs. The tractor definitely needs a counterweight to do that,...
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    Re: MF 1742 Not Happy With It

    I've been saying since the 1700 series came out that their loaders were terrible and I can guarantee you that they switched to smaller buckets because the loaders weren't as good as what they...
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    Re: New 1758

    My 1643 Hydro is the same way. In order for it to have any significant ability to push the bucket into a pile in mid range, the revs have to be way up there. I guess that's "Ag" hydro because it...
  8. Re: MF 1533 1540 and other owners opinions/info?

    You won't be disappointed.
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    Re: No hay growers work Massey's?

    We used my 1540 to rake, ted, and bale hay. Of course, we are small-timers. Nowadays, we simply lease out a lot of our land to corn and hay (chopped).
  10. Re: MF 1643 Thinking of Trading for a MF1749 or MF 1754

    Any updates?
  11. Re: MF 1754 HST Transmission Suction Filter

    The spin-on filter will be much easier the next time around because of the added washer.

    I will have to remember the crease trick with the rubber elbow.
  12. Re: MF 1754 HST Transmission Suction Filter

    I just serviced my 1643 this fall and the hydro transmission was quite difficult to service.

    A. The spin-on filter by the transmission fit too tightly to the transmission housing or loader...
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    Re: Massey Utility/Mid Level

    I don't know about anyone else, but I found myself drooling over the 4600M series video.

    A 4607M doesn't have DEF, either, so that's another positive for it. I would loooove to have one of those...
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    Re: Massey Utility/Mid Level

    Like you guys, I don't think I could open my wallet that wide for a Chinese product. Certainly not for something I intend to use on the farm or job.

    Massey Ferguson...I am disappoint.
  15. Re: No one talking about Massey Ferguson anymore ???

    We live on a 120 acre farm in CT. It might not be a large farm compared to the mid-west, but around here it's pretty decent-sized. In addition to that, I've owned and operated a small construction...
  16. Re: No one talking about Massey Ferguson anymore ???

    Just my personal opinion based on 35 years of tractor use.

    ;)
  17. Re: No one talking about Massey Ferguson anymore ???

    Been three years for my 1643, too. Very nice little tractor. Personally, I think the 1600s are the best CUTs out there, along with perhaps the JD 4000 Twentys.

    In the fall and winter we run forks...
  18. Re: Is a Massery 1758 as "Grand" as a Kubota Grand L6060?

    This is just anecdotal, but we've been mowing various fields and pastures with a 60" Woods behind my 1643 Hydro for a couple years now.

    I'm not sure how much of a mower the 1758 could handle, but...
  19. Re: Is a Massery 1758 as "Grand" as a Kubota Grand L6060?

    There are two things a Hydro does better than gear: speed and precision. In probably that order.

    If we're talking industrial machines like skid-steers and payloaders where the hydraulics are...
  20. Re: Is a Massery 1758 as "Grand" as a Kubota Grand L6060?

    I think the only transmission offered in the 1759 is the Powershuttle, so you might not have the option for HST in that tractor.

    FWIW, I had a 1540 with the Powershuttle and now a 1643 with Hydro....
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    Comparison Re: What is the best brand of tractor?

    Whatever tractor suits YOU best is the best tractor. There are enough *good* manufacturers out there to make it interesting.

    Personally, in the CUT segment, I think the best tractors ever built...
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    Price Check Re: John Deere 850 Questions

    My dad bought an 850 2wd with a 4spd and hi-lo range transmission in 1980 for about $4,400.00. We just did one of the brakes this summer and it's still on the original front tires. Other than that,...
  23. Re: Under cover (shed / barn / garage) vs tarp - any thoughts

    Over the years, we've had tractors and equipment in every conceivable environment: garage, barn, overhang roof, tarp, open to the elements.

    Obviously, garaged is best (with a barn being pretty...
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    Re: Massey Equine Program

    Yes. They gave it to me. However, I did not attempt to buy a tractor. Bought a dump truck instead.
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    Re: Where are 1700 series made?

    Have 160 hours on my 2013 1643 Hydro. Awesome tractor. I have QA for the loader. Right now we have forks on the front and forks on the 3pt. hitch, too, for doing firewood on pallets. With both ends...
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    Re: Massey Equine Program

    They asked me where the tractor will be used, what type of property it will be on, and what the tractor will be used to do.

    I told them it will be used on our family farm of 120 acres and that...
  27. Re: massey 1540 smoke under light load, any smoke screw

    Turbo must not be functioning properly.
  28. Re: MF 1643 Thinking of Trading for a MF1749 or MF 1754

    Your dealer isn't looking hard enough.
  29. Re: MF 1643 Thinking of Trading for a MF1749 or MF 1754

    My only previous experience with MF was with a 2007 1540 with FEL and the Powershuttle. That, my friend, was a great little tractor. It wasn't perfect (the ROPS vibrated at certain RPMs and made...
  30. Re: MF 1643 Thinking of Trading for a MF1749 or MF 1754

    Certainly you should buy the machine you need if you have the dough. That much is true. Having said that, I'm genuinely surprised that your 1643 isn't performing at least to its specs. Not sure what...
  31. Re: MF 1643 Thinking of Trading for a MF1749 or MF 1754

    I've got a 1643 with Hydro. Before this tractor, I had a 1540 with the Powershuttle (had to sell it in 2009 due to the bad economy).

    IMO, the 1600 series MFs are among the best compact tractors...
  32. Re: No one talking about Massey Ferguson anymore ???

    My 2013 1643 Hydro with FEL is a fine tractor. Outstanding for its size. The longer I go with it, the more I think the 1600 series was the pinnacle of the CUT segment, with JD's 4000 Twenty series...
  33. Re: How would you compare two HST transmissions?

    Thanks for the vids. That second bucket load sure was full.

    The longer I own this 1643, the more I'm convinced the 1600 series might be the best compact tractors ever built, although I must say I...
  34. Re: How would you compare two HST transmissions?

    My 1643 HST is all mechanical and, like TSO's tractor, the pedal is mated with the throttle, so additional pressure gives you more throttle. It's a feature I like and consider it to be an improvement...
  35. Re: MF 1533 1540 and other owners opinions/info?

    That is a screaming deal, IMO. 280 hours is nothing.

    Not particularly a fan of the SynchroShuttle, but that's only because my experience with the PowerShuttle (and now the Hydro) was so good.
  36. Re: MF 1533 1540 and other owners opinions/info?

    I had a 2007 1540 with a FEL and Powershuttle. It was a *fantastic* tractor. Easily the quietest tractor I'd ever owned or seen, it started instantly even in very cold weather, and was well-made from...
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    Re: New 1742 with 125 loader

    I paid around $27k for a 1643 hydro with no cab, so it sounds like a good deal.
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    Buying Advice Re: MF 1660 L130 loader?

    A Massey 1660 just like what he's looking at is a holy grail tractor, IMO. I wish they still made them.
  39. Re: Seriously considering MF 1758 - any info???

    No direct experience with the 1758, but the two Masseys I've owned have been excellent. I sold my 2007 1540 in '09 and bought a 1643 in 2013. No complaints at all with either of them.

    The 1540...
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    Tractor News Re: MF 4700 Series

    Yep. My two MF tractors were built by Iseki (1540 & 1643). Both well built and high quality. The 1540 set the bar high and the 1643 equalled or surpassed it.

    Just think: why would anyone want...
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    Tractor News Re: MF 4700 Series

    Bingo. I'd trust equipment built in Japan far more than equipment built in China. For the amount of money being charged for this stuff, it only makes sense.
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    Tractor News Re: MF 4700 Series

    Yep. No thanks.
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    Re: Digging my Massey 1758

    Glad it's working out for you. I'm very happy with my 1643. It's pretty close to the perfect tractor for my needs.
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    Re: New 4720 w/ creeper

    Yep. Bad vibes from that place.
  45. Re: Interesting Opinion On November 2015 Value Of Deere Stock

    I agree.

    My dad owns a JD 850 and we've looked at Green many times during purchasing cycles. As far as CUTs go, JD's design and engineering peaked with the 4000 Twenty series. We very nearly...
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    Re: New 4720 w/ creeper

    IMO, the JD 4000 Twenty series tractors are the best they've ever made and are better tractors than even the current models. I looked long and hard at a 4520 before buying a MF. It was partly the...
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    Re: 1736HL Purchase

    I've got a Hydro 1643 with FEL, HD bucket, rear facing work lights, and loaded rear tires. Very, very nice tractor. I also have forks for the front and 3pt hitch forks for the rear. For its size, it...
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    Re: 1736 vs 1742 and dl 120 vs dl 125

    I don't know, I see plenty of CUTs all over (especially orange ones) that are beat all to heck.

    Personally, I see the smaller buckets as a way to cut costs and lessen stress on the loader itself....
  49. Re: "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines"

    I understand the new loaders are American made, too. I was simply pointing out that the new loaders aren't somehow an upgrade because they are made here, because the previous loaders were, too.

    As...
  50. Re: "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines"

    My DL120 loader on my 1643 is American made...and is seemingly better than the new loader that replaced it.
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    Re: 1736 vs 1742 and dl 120 vs dl 125

    Just engage the parking brake. It only takes a second and you can leave the transmission in "gear."
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    Re: 1736 vs 1742 and dl 120 vs dl 125

    Hope you like your new 1736. I'm not a fan of the new loaders, however.

    FWIW, I think the Masseys are much more refined than the LS tractors. I'm very happy that I bought a 1643 before the 1700...
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    Re: 1759 Is Bigger

    Yes, if you walk around the backside of each tractor, you will see a remarkable difference between the two in terms of rear-end ruggedness.
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    Re: MF1739E versus 1742 help with decision

    If it is, then my statement/question still stands.

    How can it be cheaper to manufacture two completely different machines than to simply build one?
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    Re: MF1739E versus 1742 help with decision

    I've often thought it would be cheaper to manufacture just one type of "thing" (tractor, etc.), than offering an upscale version and a stripped version with different parts, castings, etc. Common...
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    Re: MF1739E versus 1742 help with decision

    I owned a 2007 1540 with the Powershuttle and now own a 2013 1643 with Hydro. Obviously, both are "premium" tractors. My dad owns a John Deere 850 (22hp) that has an 8x2 tranny. It's a good, solid...
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    Buying Advice Re: 1758 Review

    The 135 looks like mashed rectums, however, compared to the 120s and 130s, for a negligible difference in performance.
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    Buying Advice Re: 1758 Review

    My 1643 has a lift rating of 1,300lbs 20" in front of the loader pins. We regularly move big round hay bales (5' dia) that weigh 1,400-1,600lbs with it. Having said that, the loader can't really lift...
  59. Thread: MF4610

    by Wobblin-Goblin
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    Re: MF4610

    Man, I was "this close" to pulling the trigger on a new 4608 late last fall. Glad I didn't. We've been spoiled with two GREAT tractors from MF (1540 and 1643). I would have had a coronary if I went...
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    Comparison Re: MF 1758 vs 1759 advice

    Onceacop, I saw that picture of the Terex lifting the pallet of wood. Your 1758 with the DL130 loader should handle that with ease.

    My 1643 HST with the DL120 loader lifts some ridiculous weight...
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    Comparison Re: MF 1758 vs 1759 advice

    When I was looking at and pricing another tractor a couple months ago, with Equine Savings I could get the 4608 with a loader for the same price as a 1759 with a loader. A 1759 is a pretty darn good...
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    Re: Massey 4609 reviews or opinions?

    Custom Farmer, thanks for that review. I almost bought a new 4608 last month and I think I'm glad I didn't.
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    Price check on a new 4608

    Dealer quoted me $40,275 for a new 4608 cab with loader, 3rd function kit for loader, and loaded rears AFTER the Equine Savings Program.

    "Sticker" price was right around $52,000 for the same...
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    Re: Ordered a 5609 today

    I'm looking at a 4608 and it's quite a step up from my 1540 and 1643. It's simply a lot of tractor compared to the compact line.
  65. Oil & Fuel Re: MF 1635 HST Transmission Oil and Filter and Tractor Quirks

    I've got a 1643 and like it. What do you think about your 1660?
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    Re: 1643 wobble

    My 1643 doesn't do that, no matter the speed or ground surface.
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    Re: Here it is....my new 1749

    As strong as my 1643's DL120 loader is, I can imagine how good the 130 is. Kudos to you and your new tractor.
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    Tractor Sizing Re: Can I get your opinion please?

    As I posted earlier, almost all the work we do on the farm with our 1643 is with the loader. In that application, it outshines the Powershuttle. If we did more ground-engaging work, I would prefer...
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    Tractor Sizing Re: Can I get your opinion please?

    HST cons:
    Noise
    Costs more up front
    Suck power

    HST pros:
    Very fast when using a loader (esp. twin pedals, NOT rockers)
    No changing gears, which saves even more time
    No clutch to wear out
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    Tractor Sizing Re: Can I get your opinion please?

    Having owned a 1540 Powershuttle and now a 1643 Hydrostatic, I can tell you the loss in power going from gear to hydro is significant.

    Don't get me wrong, I like my Hydro for what I use it for,...
  71. Thread: MF 1540

    by Wobblin-Goblin
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    Buying Advice Re: MF 1540

    I bought a new 1540 in '07 for $22,500 and sold it with 95 hours in 2009 for $15,500.

    GREAT tractor, btw. Had to sell because of the economy.
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    Buying Advice Re: 1742 or 1648

    The 1648 might be more reliable, given that it isn't Tier IV emissions, and it's a larger tractor with more horsepower on a larger chassis.
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    Re: 1700 Series questions

    It's funny that you noticed how small the 1759 was, too. Our local dealer had one on the lot and I couldn't believe how small it was. It literally looked the same size as my 1643, like they used the...
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    Re: 1700 series loader lift ability

    By my calculations, one cubic foot is actually 156lbs. Your chunk of 'crete and stuff was between 14 and 15 cubic feet, right? That comes out to around 2,300lbs, give or take.

    14cf x 156lbs =...
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    Re: 1700 series loader lift ability

    TSO, I'll bet that if you could have stood the chunk of concrete upright, the tractor and loader wouldn't have struggled at all to lift it because all the weight would have been close to the pivot...
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    Re: 1700 series loader lift ability

    I've got a 1643 with the DL120 loader and it lifts 1,500-1,600lb bales (but it struggles to do so), so I'm absolutely certain a 1749 with the DL130 loader can do it easily.
  77. Re: why so few of the (larger) 1600/1700 tractors talked about on here?

    I hear ya about finding 1600 series tractors. Seems like everyone had the same idea we had: buy one before they're all gone. As it was, I think I was fortunate to get my hands on this 1643 last...
  78. Re: why so few of the (larger) 1600/1700 tractors talked about on here?

    I think if you are disappointed with the power of the '48, you'd be pleasantly surprised with the 1652. It has a much larger engine and much, much more torque.
  79. Re: why so few of the (larger) 1600/1700 tractors talked about on here?

    Couple of thoughts:

    1. If you want the larger chassis with more hp, why not just get the 1655/60 in the first place instead of finding something you apparently don't want (52hp) and then spending...
  80. Re: why so few of the (larger) 1600/1700 tractors talked about on here?

    Depends. It took a while for me to get used to the Powershuttle. Even when I got fairly proficient at it, I still had to use the clutch at times because unless you are filling your bucket from a...
  81. Re: why so few of the (larger) 1600/1700 tractors talked about on here?

    I had a 1540 with the Powershuttle, too. Not quite as quick and even with the Powershuttle, you still had to use the clutch at times, which slows you down and puts wear and tear on the clutch.
    ...
  82. Re: why so few of the (larger) 1600/1700 tractors talked about on here?

    A Powershuttle is indeed a better all-around transmission for tractors (IMO), but it does not "work just as good, if not better on a loader" than an HST.

    The Powershuttle is indeed far superior...
  83. Re: why so few of the (larger) 1600/1700 tractors talked about on here?

    That's a "high end" utility tractor that's two full classes above the 1600/1700 series, bro. It isn't your typical garden variety utility tractor that we/I are referring to.
  84. Re: why so few of the (larger) 1600/1700 tractors talked about on here?

    Not only that, but the 1500, 1600, and (I'm assuming) the 1700 series tractors are "higher end" models with more R&D refinements. Utility models typically don't even have Powershuttle transmissions,...
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    Re: Out with the old in with the new

    I looked at a 3x20 and a 4x20 on the lot last summer. The 3x20 had the Powreverser and the 4x20 had the eHydro. The 3x20 was simply too small and the 4x20 was a little out of my budget. Both were...
  86. Re: Anyone with any experience with the Massey-Ferguson 4600 series on here?

    I hear the transmissions are tight when new. Real tight. Other than that, I understand they are good tractors.
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    Re: How strong is a 1533?

    Agreed. If you are pulling a ground-engaging attachment, HST is an inferior transmission choice. We were dragging our pasture with a chain link fence not long ago and I was missing the Powershuttle...
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    Re: How strong is a 1533?

    I had a 2007 1540 Powershuttle with a loader and now have a 2013 1643 Hydro with a loader. For loader work, the Hydro is hard to beat, but for virtually every other task, the Powershuttle is...
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    Re: Pricing a MF1759 help

    It's not my intention to derail this thread or start a brand war, but I looked at Kubotas before buying anything, and I wasn't impressed with the design or engineering. Of course, your mileage may...
  90. Re: Looking at JD 4120 or 4044R - opinions?

    Personally, I think the Massey Ferguson 1600 series CUTs and the John Deere 4X20 series CUTs are the best compact tractor lines ever made. Our family farm has a 1980 JD 850 with a Yanmar engine and...
  91. Buying Advice Re: Looking at used 4300... what should I be looking for?

    An uncle of mine has a 4300. Not a bad little tractor. A bit on the small side for my likings, but it seems to be a good tractor for what he needs it for.
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    Re: 1643 total weight

    Why ask the question if you already know the answer?

    BTW, I have a Hydro 1643 with FEL too. Very nice tractor. Hope you like yours.
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    Re: John deere loader specs.

    120 acre family farm here. We have a 1988 Belarus 525, 2013 Massey Ferguson 1643, 1980 John Deere 850, 1953 Ford Jubilee TLB, 1946 Ford 8N.
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    Re: 4520 on lot

    While I agree the 4000 Twenty series John Deeres are really nice machines (I almost bought the tractor in question), if they are SO coveted...why has this particular one been on the lot for a year or...
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    Re: 4520 on lot

    Oh, and by the way, that dealership you went to is NOTORIOUS for being snobbish. It's one of the reasons I've purchased two Masseys instead of John Deeres. Of course, their ridiculous pricing has a...
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    Re: 4520 on lot

    Hey Matt, I looked at that exact same tractor last summer. Nice machine, but I ended up buying a Massey Ferguson instead due to price. The price I was quoted for that tractor last summer was $32,600.
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    Re: New 1648 owner

    I hear ya on the pedal creep. That bugs me too.

    BTW, we recently found out that the 1,200lb bales our 1643 was struggling with were actually 1,500-1,600lbs!
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    Re: New 1648 owner

    I hear ya on the pedal creep. That bugs me too.

    BTW, we recently found out that the 1,200lb bales our 1643 was struggling with were actually 1,500-1,600lbs!
  99. Re: NEW Massey Ferguson 1700 Economy Series Pictures

    Ugly.

    Not sure what the price difference is between the E and Premium models is, but for an extra couple grand or so, I'd happily pay for the more handsome, capable model.
  100. Re: Price on a 1736 Power Shuttle...........

    Nope. Remember, the total weight on the front axle with our set of skid-steer forks is still 1,800-1,900lbs. It's just that the weight is carried a little further forward than the specs suggest. The...
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