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03-13-2012, 08:54 PM #11Epic Contributor
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
i'd be tempted to drain a lil oil in a glass jar fromt he rear drain and look at it.
if cloudy, emulsified, or with entrained solids.. I'd flush the sump..
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02-16-2013, 09:10 AM #12New Member
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
I bought my Ford 3000 which had sat idle for a couple of years and the hydralics either wouldn't
work at all, would work but would be slow and shatter, or once in a while would work fine a couple
of times and then revert back to the prior.
I drained the fluid, flushed with kerosene, refilled and primed with the same results as before.
After fooling around for a couple of weeks and becoming quite frustrated I added one gallon of WD-40
and ran the tractor for a couple of hours.
I noticed an improvement, but still not acceptable for dependable use.
The following day when I used the hydralics it operated like a new tractor. I haven't experienced any
problems since and recommend at least giving this a try.
Joe Hoag
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02-16-2013, 06:21 PM #13Epic Contributor
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
may be a wet filter... a flush with diesel, atf and alcohol may help some if the sump is real wet..
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02-24-2013, 11:24 AM #14New Member
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
Soundguy,
Thanks, but like I said adding the gallon of WD-40 seemed to do the trick.
I believe that after I drained (coffee with cream appearence) flushed, and
primed the hydralics the problem remaining was control valves sticking.
The WD-40 seemed to have taken care of that problem without a overhaul.
Our Farmall M which is housed inside wouldn't move, the amount of mositure
drained out because of condensation after we thawed it was a real shocker.
We live in the Northeast so we need to pay attention to condensation issues.
Thanks, Joe Hoag
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02-25-2013, 10:25 AM #15Epic Contributor
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
if there was that much water in the oil to make a milkshake.. a simple darina nd fill and adding in some high unsqueaker is probably going to be only a temp and partial fix.
wet sumps like that ( in my opinion ).. should be flushed. many times wet filters can be saved if not plugged.. using the alcohol / disel trick.
once they plug with sediment though.. not much hope other than repalcement.
monitor the oil.. my guess is it will cloud back up soom from the contamination left in the system.
good luck.
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02-25-2013, 02:17 PM #16New Member
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
Soundguy, Thanks and I certainly will pay close attention to use performance and fluid moisture
appearence. Would dry gas do the same thing as alcohol for moisture removal?
Also, I am seriously considering replacing the factory Holley carberator with a Zenith. Do you have
any thoughts, concerns or insight opions which would help me in making this decision?
Thanks in Advance...Joe Hoag
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02-25-2013, 02:41 PM #17Epic Contributor
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
dry gas = alcohol.. in a smaller bottle, more expensive.
could be ethanol, 2-propanol or methanol.. etc.
cheaper to hit the drugstore and buy a quart of 90% rubbing, and add it in then go work the snot out of her.
the alcohol is a polar solvent.. water is polar.. thus disolves the water.. and makes an azeotrope. the azeotrope will actually let the water portion flash off at a lower temp than it normally would have..
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02-25-2013, 02:43 PM #18Epic Contributor
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
holley carbs... i don't like them as much as they are so finecky.. though they are miserly on fuel... the zenith work.. and are spendy.. and aren't as fuel miserly ( BUT you get a running tractor out of the deal..
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03-04-2013, 03:53 PM #19New Member
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
Soundguy, When I replace the orginal Holley carburator with a new Zenith will I still have to use the fuel pump on my Ford 3000, or
can I plumb it in to run from the bottom of the gas tank, through a in-line filter and directly to the Zenith carburator. The Tank is
enough higher that gravity feed shouldn't be a problem with fuel delivery, but I am concerned if fuel needs to be delivered with pump
pressure.
I've asked dealers and mechanics with Ford 3000 experience but haven't been able to get a clear answer.
Thanks in Advance...Joe Hoag
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03-05-2013, 09:42 AM #20Epic Contributor
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Re: Ford 3000 3-point not working
i've seen people do it both ways. I've also seen people get so fed up with that fuel line routing and the mechanical pump that they put on a 2-4 psi electric as well. I don't own a gasser 3 cyl, so can't tell you how well it works under load.
I have driven gasser 3 cyls with line direct to the carb, and honestly.. it may have been an issue with fuel.. or it may have been a dirty carb. i was having to use choke to run.. .. however.. wasn't my machine to fix... and i didn't use it long enough to think about it much.. she ended up having other problems as well so I swapped machines to finish the job.
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