CK 30 OIL OVER FILL

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DIRTCUTTER

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CK30 bh/fel/sb 97 hrs. I changed the engine oil and filter, the only problem is I added to much oil, 3 and half gallons worth. I was thinking 2 quarts to a gallon. After I completed the oil change about an hour later while using the tractor I got a huge puff of white smoke coming from the exhaust pipe. I turned off the motor waited a few minutes thinking the motor overheated. Started the motor again, same thing white smoke and a sound like a rod knock. I when over everything I did that day to the tractor, and after counting the empty bottles of oil and checking my service book I realized what I did. I then drained out the oil, added new oil to the proper amount. I used the tractor for about 5 minutes this morning I didnt want to push it until I find out more about what damage I might have caused and it seems to be operating ok. My question is what damage if any did I do to the motor.
 
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ouch....is it still knocking? If so i would get it to the dealer. That really suc&'s...........
 
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Don't use it and don't start it until the dealer checks it. I know a girl that did the same thing and she destroyed all four rods and pistons.
 
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Hey mate you were on the brink of discovering how good Kioti tractors really are. If you had opened it up to about 4000rpm it would have performed the ultimate task it was designed for. The white smoke is an indicator that all is working on schedule. Once the tractor had stabilized at 4000rpm it would have zoomed off to the International space station. The engineers at Daedong spent billions of dollars incorporating this feature. Something that NASA to date have not figured out how it is done. Just make sure you wear good clothing and protective sunglasses and helmet before trying it again.
 
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Didn't it start running out were you add the oil? I do not know how you could have put that much in with out it over flowing! So if I got this right you put in 7 gallons of oil when it should have only taken 3 1/2 gallons or 14qts .
Thats funny ! Ok you know what a dip stick is right. You where burning more oil than fuel !

On Damage you may have glazed Cylinders ! Talk to you dealer YOU may want to do the what IF question to him. It gose some thing like this , what if some one was to change oil and put the right amount of oil in ((BUT)) went and had a beer or two came back and added more like twice as much is what it was to have !And Ran it for about a hour or so!!! Would their be any thing that could go wrong ??? Let just say if that would happen!!
 
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This rates right up there with what a friend did to his vintage '69 Plymouth roadrunner. He was always very particuliar about the oil he used in it and had a specific brand of synthetic he always used in it. One day he changed the oil, got distracted & didn't replace the drain plug, poured his big bux $$ synthetic racing oil straight thru the engine & onto the ground. Then proceded to drive the car until it acted like it overheated. (Uh........Duh.....do ya think it'll be OK when it cools down ????....Not !!!) Cost him a engine & got him a good ribbing from his buddies. Why he didn't check the dipstick......or look at his oil pressure guage....we'll never know....................
 
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I can see overfilling it, well not by that much as I don't understand why it didn't run out the dipstick tube. In fact I know I over filled a transmission once, but you never start an engine that you just filled up with oil without checking the oil level first. And then after you start it up to make sure it is at the right level right away.

Typically I will have a quart over because I put in the right amount, then once I start it and the filter fills up you should have the right amount.

I am afraid if this one was a knocking and white smoke was coming out that motor is in serious trouble.

Hate to see it happen on a motor.

murph
 
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The CK30 takes 1.5 gallons of engine oil, 6 quarts, with a new filter.

"I know I over filled a transmission once, but you never start an engine that you just filled up with oil without checking the oil level first. And then after you start it up to make sure it is at the right level right away.

Typically I will have a quart over because I put in the right amount, then once I start it and the filter fills up you should have the right amount."

Hmmmmm. When you know how much oil an engine takes then there is no reason to check the level after filling since it will be wrong anyways due to the empty filter. Check after it is run and up to pressure but then wait a couple of minutes so the oil settles down to the sump, not when it is running. Oh, there is no way that the tiny CK oil filter holds even half a quart.

I'll be on to my 300 hour oil change after next weekend and I am impressed with how this little engine burns no oil. A sideways (or upside down) oil filter is peeve of mine but the mess is easy to clean on our tractors.
 
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Highbeam said:
When you know how much oil an engine takes then there is no reason to check the level after filling...

I guess I may be the only dumb guy here, but I am pretty sure I saved a very expensive engine by ALWAYS checking the oil level on the dipstick BEFORE starting the engine after an oil change. I say that I am a "dumb guy" because the time I speak of is when I forgot to replace the oil plug. :eek:

After draining the oil I got distracted by a phone call and I was doing other things while the oil was draining. The 8 gallon oil pan was still under the truck as I was putting new oil back in (which promptly went right out the bottom) so I never had a huge puddle under the truck. Anyway, I recall pulling the dipstick, wiping it off and checking the oil level. Although it sometimes is hard to see the level with new clean oil, I couldn't find any oil on the dipstick. Yes, I wiped the dipstick and tried it several times in a row before it struck me what I'd done. Oopsie! :eek:

Again, I may be the only dumb guy here, but your advice of saying there is no reason to check the dipstick after putting new oil in would have cost me an engine. I'll stay with my dumb guy check list, thank you. And that includes always checking the dipstick and looking for any obvious leaks before starting the engine and then checking for any leaks again, and re-check the dipstick level, after starting the engine.

As far as the original poster's engine, I just don't know. We all know that oil doesn't compress very well, but I don't know where all it went and how his particular engine is designed. A girl I dated in college decided to do her own maintenance on her car. She noticed that her radiator was low. No problem since her dad had two gallons of antifreeze in the garage. She put both gallons in and the radiator was still low. That is when she drove over to my fraternity to have me check it out, which was about 3 miles. Yup, you guessed it, she filled the crank case with two gallons of antifreeze! After draining the nasty chocolate foam looking mess out, I did 3 oil changes in a row that day for her and, believe it or not, her car kept going fine. The car? A Pacer.
 

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