I've searched but to no avail. Are you able to get prices below msrp on the simplicity brand at all? Talked to a dealer a few months ago and everything was msrp,I like everyone else want to feel that I got a good deal. So is anyone getting any discounts like*kubota*or kioti coming in 15% off? Figuring it'll be around 13k or so with my addons, maybe a little more if the wife is ok with it.