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    Default Artix snow blower

    In searching for a new 80 to 82" snow blower, I came upon the Artix from Canada.

    I'ts a 3pt bidirectional. You don't need to decide if you you want a backup or a inverted forward pull, it works both ways.

    Best of both worlds. Does anyone have experience with or know anything about this blower.

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    Default Re: Artix snow blower

    Quote Originally Posted by genze View Post
    In searching for a new 80 to 82" snow blower, I came upon the Artix from Canada.

    I'ts a 3pt bidirectional. You don't need to decide if you you want a backup or a inverted forward pull, it works both ways.

    Best of both worlds. Does anyone have experience with or know anything about this blower.

    Thanks
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    You might also look at at the Riest industries single stage rear mounts as they have fewer parts and no impeller fan.
    A Reist single stage snow thrower will use 20 percent less power to throw the same amount of snow and they are very well built machines.

    With the exchange rate being so good now you would be better off buying a 7 foot single stage unit from the Reist dealer in British Columbia.
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    Default Re: Artix snow blower

    Thanks Leon's,
    But you have to decide whether you want their inverted or their back up model so you suffer from having the best of both worlds. That's why I'm trying to figure out if the Artix is any good, because you can back into a big pile if you want, or if it's a light snow With only three or 6 inches you can just drive forward and according to the videos I've seen looks like it blows very nicely.

    I also researched the Reist, but can't find too many testimonials are much information about whether people like them or not the only thing I can find is that it seems like most people like the two-stage blowers over the single stage.

    For some reason it doesn't seem like many people want to make a single stage snowblower and if they're so good I wonder why more people don't make them.

    Leonz do you have any experience with the Reist inverted pull behind rear blower.
    I have an L 6060 so it seems like there are 3000 series with that big drum would work well on my machine but I have no experience with it at all.

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    Default Re: Artix snow blower

    They don't make single stage snow throwers because the market is flooded with 2 stage units and RAD only makes 2 stage units for large mules and small garden tractors.

    If you go to youtube and type in reist snow throwers the Reist company has several vidoes and there is a video of a large landscaping company that has 42 kilometers of sidewalks to clear that bought single stage snow blowers from Reist to replace the 2 stage units that were provided with the Steiner tractors they bought because they broke down constantly and the owner really likes the singel stage units he has because he does not have to repair them at all.



    They stopped making them for lawn tractors because they needed to be built stronger than the 2 stage junk offered for large and small garden tractors and sub compacts.


    I do not have any experience with the Reist blowers but I can and will tell you from using a single stage snow thrower mounted on a 1968 cub cadet tractor that a single stage is the way to go period. I wish I could have bought a single stage snow thrower for the JDLA115 as the two stage blower they have is junk and a maintenance nightmare with a 2 belt drive. I HATE IT and its just more RAD JUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    I spent a lot of time describing the Reist snow throwers on another snow thread a few weeks ago and for the money you spend you get much better snow blower that has fewer parts and costs less money. The steel they use is very heavy and the units have full welds like the Pronovost 2 stage units.

    As an example and just so you know, a 48 inch series 2000 model is $2,750.00 Canadian dollars as of 3 weeks ago. You are going to save a huge amount of money even with frieght costs to your door from the Reist dealer in British Colombia if you buy one from them.

    I am sure if you call Reist that they will give you a list of dealers that have sold them and the buyers of the single stage snow blowers too.

    Once you see how they work you will not want a snow caster that has more parts to deal with and you will have almost no spillover when clearing snow.

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    Default Re: Artix snow blower

    I talked to Reist. Their 2000 and 3000
    Unit are in the $7500 to $8500 range.
    He also said it doesn't throw the Snow as far as a two-stage.

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    Default Re: Artix snow blower

    The Artix are a nice blower. I haven't used one myself but the snow company I work for that has 40 tractors and about 6000 driveways has a bunch of them. The guys that have them love them, super easy to leave a perfectly clean street at every driveway and rear visibility is quite good. Not all of them are bi-directional, they have some that are pull-type only and that is the majority of what they have. I think they are phasing out the Normand and Pronovost inverteds for the Artix due to the cleaner streets.

    The downside to them? They aren't nearly as good in deep snow as either a conventional push or pull blower. Realistically they are only good for up to a foot or so of depth otherwise it's spilling over the top. I might even be generous on that foot. By comparison, I've been regularly belly deep or more on a Case 120 or Deere 6330 with a Normand inverted and just kept chugging along. No way the Artix will do that.

    If you are looking at the bi-directional ones, don't forget for optimum usage, that means 3 sets of remotes. Chute rotation, deflector and the auger housing.

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    Default Re: Artix snow blower

    Quote Originally Posted by genze View Post
    I talked to Reist. Their 2000 and 3000
    Unit are in the $7500 to $8500 range.
    He also said it doesn't throw the Snow as far as a two-stage.
    That's not for a 48 inch, that's for 84 inch.
    So the price on the Reist to me for an 84 inch doesn't seem that much lower than the price that I got for a Normand 82 inch.

    In that 80 inch range you see probably 75% more Normands and Pronovost being used commercially compared to Reist.

    I was never considering a RAD. I was only looking for the highest quality unit I could possibly find, but was having a problem deciding whether I wanted an inverted pull type or a conventional 3 point back up style, because on my property I really have a use for both a pull behind for my very long driveway to the main road. But I also have a lot of stuff that I could use a back up unit for around Barnes and outbuildings.

    That's what started this thread I came upon the Artix commercial bidirectional snowblower.
    Since it's in Canada and I am in the states and not able to go test them or look at them I was trying to see if anybody had experience with them and could give me some feedback as to the quality of construction of the machine.

    They're 80 inch appears to be stoutly built because it weighs about 1300 pounds.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Artix snow blower

    Quote Originally Posted by genze View Post
    That's not for a 48 inch, that's for 84 inch.

    So the price on the Reist to me for an 84 inch doesn't seem that much lower than the price that I got for a Normand 82 inch.

    In that 80 inch range you see probably 75% more Normands and Pronovost being used commercially compared to Reist.

    I was never considering a RAD. I was only looking for the highest quality unit I could possibly find, but was having a problem deciding whether I wanted an inverted pull type or a conventional 3 point back up style, because on my property I really have a use for both a pull behind for my very long driveway to the main road. But I also have a lot of stuff that I could use a back up unit for around Barnes and outbuildings.

    That's what started this thread I came upon the Artix commercial bidirectional snowblower.
    Since it's in Canada and I am in the states and not able to go test them or look at them I was trying to see if anybody had experience with them and could give me some feedback as to the quality of construction of the machine.

    They're 80 inch appears to be stoutly built because it weighs about 1300 pounds.

    Thanks

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    He neglected or forgot to tell you the rotor speed for the single stage snow thrower/snow caster Reist units can be increased by changing the driven sprocket(rotor) size on the rotor and driven sprocket to a smaller sprocket size. The speed of the as delivered snow thrower without the sprocket change is 450-500 RPM+ at 540 RPM PTO Speed.

    The problem with the 2 stage units is and always has been the open auger method of moving snow into the impeller housing. this causes the snow to be pushed outward at all times as the snow caster is being pushed into the snow pack to clear it and why there is always snow left to remove at the end of a single pass.

    As I have mentioned previously: If they all used a solid rotor with narrow shallow flighting that is equipped with a serrated edge and a welded paddle in the center to push the snow into the impeller housing they would cast the snow further and in smaller amounts. The only snow casters that use a solid rotor with serrated ribbons to cut the snow are the Berta two stage units offered for sale in Europe.

    The Berta folks have designed the three units offered where the rotor halves meet completely with the cover used to shield the gearbox to permit a better flow of snow into the 4 blade impeller used in these units. They are equipped with a full width scatter shield (just like the ones mounted on flail mowers) to stop any snow from exiting the three snow blower/snow casters offered for the European end user. This is a required European Union safety item for large snow blowers used around pedestrians.


    If they also serrated the auger ribbon the snow would be chipped up just like many of the European snow casters and the walk behind Yamaha snow casters there would be little to no snow left to chase after when cleaning up at the ends of a run.

    If fluid film is used to coat the snow caster chute and the rotor/auger flighting the snow would be moved that much faster in smaller chunks and throwing it farther as well as the heat created by the friction of the snow being
    cast away is substantial and why many folks use slick sheet to eliminate this issue by lining the cross auger housing, chute, and spout with slick sheet material from Horn Plastics and other suppliers. spraying the slick sheet also aids in getting rid of the snow that much faster too.

    The Reist single stage units also have an adjustment to move the rotor closer to the housing to allow it to clear all the snow in the housing in one revolution as there is no space left to allow snow to remain in the housing.


    I like simple that is why I still have the last two Toro Snow Pups I bought, I would have had the first two repaired and hanging in the garage on a hook. At the time I was so tired from shoveling snow after the rotor bearing and housings broke I just let them go when I bough the new ones in 1987 and 2006. Of course hindsight is 20-20 as the only real wear parts are the ribbon drive belts-the small Tecumseh engines never failed me either unless the carburetor was worn out either.

    I neglected to buy a single stage snow thrower when I bought the Wheel horse 244 years ago and I was advised to invest in a plow(never advisable when living on a state road) and needless to say I should have purchased the single stage snow thrower as I would never had any issues with snow buildup.


    As I mentioned previously the beauty of the Reist single stage units is they can also be driven hydraulically with a separate mounting plate that attaches to the three point hitch arms on the snow thrower and allows it to be mounted to a SSQA mounting plate.

    The propeller shaft and yoke is replaced with the hydraulic driven gear motor and its mounting plate and the hoses are routed to the PTO powered hydraulic pump and fed from reservoir provided by Reist and mounted under the tractor steps or a reservoir mounted on the three point hitch plumbed to the gear pump mounted on the rear PTO shaft.

    I am not trying to bore you with detail or spend your money. making half width passes allows you to throw the snow farther as well just like a 2 stage unit with less power and fuel use.

    The lack of an impeller fan also makes it simpler as the rotor housing is also much stronger as there is no impeller housing and the rotor can be moved backwards to close the gap between the rotor auger flighting edge and the housing to clear the housing of any snow and ice at all times when the snow thrower is being used.

    The chute and spout of the Reist units should be supplied with slick sheet but that is something the end user can do with flat head bolts offered by Gemplers to mount their slick sheet products to grain wagons feed, bunks and trucks in this example.

    I just want you to examine the options as the series 1,000 and 2000 units are versatile simply due to their ability to be used as a hydraulic driven snow caster.

    There are so many options/possibilities for snow removal using a front mount snow thrower/snow caster with a back blade where the snow can be windrowed into a larger longer pile and disposed of. The same can said with a snow plow mounted on the loader frame and the rear mount snow thrower/snow caster as a possibility.


    The longer the snow spends in a cross auger housing while it is being conveyed to the impeller housing and the fan blades the warmer it gets and the more dense it becomes and the harder it becomes to move it. that's why many folks make the first pass and then take half cuts to get rid of the rest of it which makes the removal that much easier to accomplish which is also true with any single stage snow caster.

    The simpler it is the better it is. By using Fluid Film, WD-40 or slick sheet in any snow caster allows the snow caster to throw double the casting distance from my personal experience. The WD-40 does not last as long as the fluid film but it works well. Once you use Fluid Film, WD-40 or cheap cooking spray on a snow caster or plow without slick sheet material the difference is amazing in how much better they work as the resistance is cut in half or more.

    The same can be said by using Clarence's snow blower impeller kits as they remove the snow left in the impeller housing completely throwing it much farther with less effort used by the walk behind or three point hitch mounted snow caster using a metal impeller fan.

    I usually/always bore people with my submitted detail but I look at it this way: Its your money and as the exchange rate with Canada is so good now its better to buy a Reist, Pronovost or Lynx(pronovost) snow caster.

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    Default Re: Artix snow blower

    Leonz, Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge regarding the Reist snowblowers.

    The gentleman I spoke to did tell me that the drum the spinning at 4:50 rpm's but he still mentioned that they don't throw half as far as a two-stage snowblower.

    Also like I said before with my kubota L 6060 I wouldn't be using the 1000 or the 2000 series, I would be using the 3000 series and they are almost $8500 and that's without any options at all. which you can buy a Normand or a commercial Pronovost for that amount of money.

    But the real issue is, have you taken the time to go investigate and look at the Artix

    Souffleuse bidirectionnelle - Artix
    because the claim to fame with that is it's built not commercial but industrial quality. but you can use it going both directions backing up and going forward that is a huge plus when it comes to snow removal.

    The guys running commercial normands don't need plastic or fluid film to throw the snow, they move the snow with ease.

    To me the Reist At $8500 is no bargain with half the moving parts and just one spinning drum and being almost as expensive as a commercial Normand somehow I don't see the point.

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    Default Re: Artix snow blower

    Leonz, Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge regarding the Reist snowblowers.

    The gentleman I spoke to did tell me that the drum the spinning at 4:50 rpm's but he still mentioned that they don't throw half as far as a two-stage snowblower.

    Also like I said before with my kubota L 6060 I wouldn't be using the 1000 or the 2000 series, I would be using the 3000 series and they are almost $8500 and that's without any options at all. which you can buy a Normand or a commercial Pronovost for that amount of money.

    But the real issue is, have you taken the time to go investigate and look at the Artix

    Souffleuse bidirectionnelle - Artix
    because the claim to fame with that is it's built not commercial but industrial quality. but you can use it going both directions backing up and going forward that is a huge plus when it comes to snow removal.

    The guys running commercial normands don't need plastic or fluid film to throw the snow, they move the snow with ease.

    To me the Reist At $8500 is no bargain with half the moving parts and just one spinning drum and being almost as expensive as a commercial Normand somehow I don't see the point.

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