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    I am looking to expand my snow removal buisiness, I already plow driveways with a atv. I am looking at Kage Innovations plow. My quistion is what to put it on a tractor or skid. The driveways I already have are in town but all over, so the speed of the tractor would be nice. I am wanting to start getting some parking lots which i know that the skids moverability would shine. The skid steer would almost have to be trailered from driveway to driveway which would take alot of time. Let me know you thoughts

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    Go with a cab tractor . I have both skid steers and tractors. The road speed will be slow compared to the truck pulling the trailered skid steer, but so much more safer than loading on the trailer and pulling in those ice conditions. Sometimes we can not get the skid steers to climb up the ramps.

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    Default Re: skid steer or tractor

    The Kago innovations plow/box is totally the way to go, super efficient.
    I'm assuming these both (skid/tractor) both have cabs

    tractor
    pluses: way better visibility, 15mph or so on the road
    minuses: weak lift arms

    skid:
    pluses: extremely strong lift arms for size. very fast, turn around go the other way. 2 speed (only way to go) about 13mph on road
    minuses: terrible visibility.


    price should be about the same.

    ti depends on what you want to do.
    big wide open areas, a skid rules. tight nasty cars everywhere, a tractor beats it.

    a toolcat might be both.
    about the same strength, good visibility, about 18mph road speed.

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    Having plowed with both a cabbed tractor (kubota L3600) and a skid steer (mainly S185 and S250 Bobcats), they both have pros and cons. IMO, plows suck on skids and tractors, I have used them on both and hated it. Snow pushers and large buckets are the only way to go IMO. Currently we are running a 7' bucket and 7' 3pt blower on the L3600 and 8' bucket on the S250.

    If you are mainly going to use it for doing driveways I would go with a Bobcat because of the maneuverability. I have found the tractor just to be to cumberson in driveways, but tractors tend to shine in open parking lots.

    This is just what I have found, but everyone is different. What works great for some, doesn't work for others.

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    Skids are great removing snow , but without tracks on them you can get them stuck easy if the ground isn't level. In parking lots there hard to beat . If your looking into one tracks might be the way to go, but I still think about ground clearance under them. I find that I can get closer to things with the bucket ,because you can see the edge of your bucket better. You can lift alot with them and bust though hard pack snow banks pretty easy.

    Tractors, can work in most all types of situations. You can get a wheel off into the snow and get out ( most of the time). Skid steer without tracks would most likely, if on uneven ground spin itself right into getting more stuck.
    Tractor you can dump the snow further away from the drive-way because of the reach.With a tractor you can have the option of having a rear blade or a snowblower and still have use of your bucket.
    One other thing, spin around on concrete or a tarred driveway with a skid steer with tires and you could see black marks. I still think as much as I like skid steers and they are powerful machines ,I'd still go with a tractor.
    If you do get into a pickle getting stuck ,you can always use your bucket to lift and roll back right? But if you don't get the snow scraped all the way down to the ground and ride up over it where your wheels break though your only going to be trying to push snow with the back of a skid where with a tractor you don't run into that problem. Just a few things I've run into using both.

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    Default Re: skid steer or tractor

    Do you have a truck to trailer it? If so, and if your only interested from a snowplow point of view, why not get a plow for the truck? Much quicker than an ATV and can handle a lot more snow. As long as you push the snow back in the beginning of the season you don't have to worry about snow piling up and having to move it with a tractor...

    However, you can use the tractor or skidsteer for a million other things and they are WAY more fun as well!

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    New Holland has an option on their tractors called supersteer. On these the axle pivots as well as the tires, giving the maching greater manueverability.
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    I have used skid, CUTs and Toolcat. My TC 5610 with 3 pt is my preferred. Good visibility, turns tightly, goes 18mph, rides smoothly and doesn't tear up the turf or leave skid marks on cement. I like the CUTs and TC because I can use different attachments on front on back. With the TC, I use a snow blade on the front and blower on the back. Sometimes I will use the pusher on the front and blade or blower on the back.

    Depends on what conditions you plan to use the equipment. Long driveways, best to use the front or rear blade and push to snow off to the side. Couple of passes back and forth and done. Small/big areas or short driveways, the pusher is nice and just put it in a pile. I just bought a used Virnig pusher with back blade and now can get close to garage/buildings. Just pull the snOW back and then push it away. Deep snow and bigger drifts will require the blower.

    If I was pushing snow in wide open spaces, like a parking lot, then a big skid and big pusher would be the way to go.

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    Default Re: skid steer or tractor

    I use both at work and I think I would go with the tractor. The vision out of the skid steers in pretty low. You wouldn't want to side swipe someones car in their driveway.

    Also, You could use the tractor to expand your business in the summer by mowing fields.
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    I do have a truck to trailor what ever I would get. I don't like the thought of putting a plow on the front though. Thanks for the input, keep it coming.

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