Price Check LS XR4046

[GManBart]

People confuse tier 4 with better fuel economy which isn't the case. All tier 4 is emissions, they are actually worse on fuel.

That has been proven false by a number of brands....Tier IV Final machines are getting better fuel economy than Tier IV Interim machines.

Further, on some machines, it's much more than just emissions device(s). As an example, Kioti went from indirect injection to common rail injection, and they also went from naturally aspirated to turbocharged in the transition from DK to NX....both typically improve fuel economy. Kubota went from indirect injection, and Turbo on the MX5100 to Common Rail Direct Injection with Turbo on the MX5200. There are many other examples of similar changes out there. So saying it's simply emissions equipment might be misleading, and totally false in some cases.

The R4047 is actually not a Tier III machine, it's Tier IV Interim.

 

[lgardner]

That has been proven false by a number of brands....Tier IV Final machines are getting better fuel economy than Tier IV Interim machines.

Further, on some machines, it's much more than just emissions device(s). As an example, Kioti went from indirect injection to common rail injection, and they also went from naturally aspirated to turbocharged in the transition from DK to NX....both typically improve fuel economy. Kubota went from indirect injection, and Turbo on the MX5100 to Common Rail Direct Injection with Turbo on the MX5200. There are many other examples of similar changes out there. So saying it's simply emissions equipment might be misleading, and totally false in some cases.

The R4047 is actually not a Tier III machine, it's Tier IV Interim.

Ok, what's tier 4 interim mean? I thought they were basically the same engine (different manufacture) just that the XR had the computer controlled exhaust filter.

 

[GManBart]

Ok, what's tier 4 interim mean? I thought they were basically the same engine (different manufacture) just that the XR had the computer controlled exhaust filter.

Tier IV Interim was simply a lower standard somewhere between Tier III and Tier IV Final. There are entire sections of certain websites dedicated to illustrating the differences, but that sort of stuff makes my head hurt!

The engines in the R4047 and XR4046 are completely different. The 4047 engine is a Mitsubishi design that is 152.9cu inches and the XR has a Shibaura design that is 135.2cu inches. The 4046 has a diesel particulate filter, and some form of computer monitoring, but other than that it's not as complex as many of the competitor's similarly sized engines.

 

[TSO]

The XR4046 has:
Different joystick & position.
Different steering wheel tilt setup.
Different 4wd selector location.
Different fuel tank location (much improved imo).
Slightly different seating position (and different seat?).
CAB model offered.
Updated grill design, stickers, and dash.
Smaller engine making less HP along with tier 4 stuff.

The R4047 has:
Excellent engine.
Between the two, I felt the HST hydraulics were better on the R


If you drove the two and didn't notice much difference, go for the better engine & cheaper price.

 

[lgardner]

Thanks for all the input.

Pick up the R4047 on Friday!

 

[lgardner]

Thanks for all the input.

Pick up the R4047 on Friday!

 

[GManBart]

Thanks for all the input.

Pick up the R4047 on Friday!

Congrats! The 4047 is a very solid machine that will last a long time. Pics or it didn't happen