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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Jean View Post
    I studded my tractor tires with self tapping screws.
    Over time they all would have pulled out.
    I ended up removing them and still curse the day I installed them.
    I still find the odd one on the driveway.
    Great traction for the 15 minutes they stayed in.
    I used these guys, as I read somewhere on here not to use self tappers.



    Seem to want to stay in so far, even with some wheel spin in 2wd. I couldn't see regrooving R1's especially the fronts as the treads are quite thin already.
    I might just leave them in all summer too as I rarely get out on the road and I can see them being useful on slippery roots as well.
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    Default Re: tire studs

    Just my opinion but if you're going to put screws in your tires then I would use ones designed for that purpose. Ice studs usually have a larger thread to keep them from being pulled out and are a lot harder so the heads will not wear so you can easily remove them. I think Maxigrip even makes them with a carbide tip. Plus you can usually get them in different lengths.
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    Default Re: tire studs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Jean View Post
    I studded my tractor tires with self tapping screws.
    Over time they all would have pulled out.
    I ended up removing them and still curse the day I installed them.
    I still find the odd one on the driveway.
    Great traction for the 15 minutes they stayed in.
    With my luck, every one that comes out of a tractor tire will find its way through my car tires.
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    Default Re: tire studs

    I've used about about 5 plugs since removing the studs....
    Never again!

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    Default Re: tire studs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Jean View Post
    I've used about about 5 plugs since removing the studs....
    Never again!
    You must've used ones that are too long? Hopefully I won't have your problems...
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    Default Re: tire studs

    I tried shorter ones, then longer ones, then I added a dab of construction grade adhesive to each one.
    Nothing held.

    I've since made tire chains and wouldn't go back.

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    Default Re: tire studs

    Indyian thanks for the pics.
    Nice looking job.
    It looks like they will bite good on the icy stuff.
    Keep us posted how you like them.
    Thanks guys for all the feedback.

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    I've heard of people having problems when the heads break off and then as the tire wears the rest of the screw pushes it's way into the tire and causes a flat but I've never seen it.
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    Default Re: tire studs

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyal View Post
    I've heard of people having problems when the heads break off and then as the tire wears the rest of the screw pushes it's way into the tire and causes a flat but I've never seen it.
    I could see how that's possible, I'll have to watch on the fronts at least, at they might actually wear down enough to matter in the next decade. The rears would have to wear something like 2" and I think to operate on my hills I'd have to replace the tires before then.
    I think that if I don't do alot of tire spinning I should be OK as I agree that snapping the heads off could be an issue if they spin and catch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Jean View Post
    I've used about about 5 plugs since removing the studs....
    Never again!
    Ouch!!! Sounds to me like you put in the wrong screw type and the wrong screw length too. You don't wanna use self tapper types and you do want to use proper made for the purpose screws. IMHE

    I have a 2WD tractor with diamond pattern turf tires. Certainly not the best tires in general for sloppy conditions and tantamount to useless on snow and ice fwiw. I have used tire chains for two seasons with great results save the installation and overall experience/adjustment hassle. The chains I have are expensive ones with cross hatch cutters on the outside bite surface, sort of like a barbed wire fence but chain and they dig in well. Pretty hard to get the tractor stuck even on 20 degree incline fwiw. I use it in the wintertime with lots of weight on the front and back with plow and blower combination.

    Without traction assistance on slippery stuffs, with these tires, it will get stuck in its own tracks. The chains work great but they are a PITA to put on and to adjust and to keep in place. Ultimately, they will shift and be eating at your metal parts including your fenders and 3pt hitch arms. And you will be hassling around readjusting them which ain't no fun cause the tractors sitting on one part of the tire/chains so that won't move so you have to move the tractor to adjust the chains 2-3 times.

    So I just did some experimenting/tried koldkutter ice screws tonight. This is after getting the tractor stuck on a flat concrete garage entrance apron just a week ago. Literally, the tractor got stuck right there. I didn't have the blower on the back and the plow on the front unweighted the back and it just sat there and spun. LOL

    So I put ice screws on the center of the tire three wide. The Diamond pattern is offset so 2 diamonds offset then one diamond at the center then two then one and so on and so forth. Used 1/2" [woulda preferred 3/4 but I had em layin around from motorcycle ice racing] koldkutters, one screw in the center of each diamond. Put in with a rachet screwdriver applying pressure as I put them in and no predrilled holes.

    Went out in the 2" deep sloppy wet icy slime with screws on the drive wheel and chains on the other. I didn't need the differential lock to get me out of anything. The screws dug into the frozen ground/ice/snow mix and I went where I wanted. Slope or no slope. Same as I do with my ATV with the screws installed. Same deal different app. None of the screws came out... why would they? And no the tires are not flat... you have to use the right length of screws for your application. If you use 3/8ths screws they may come out due to the shortness of the thread but 1/2 and 5/8ths and etc.. are very secure. 3/8ths are actually very secure and I use those on the ATV cause the knobs are shallower.

    My opinion so far is they work great. Before you go listening to anyone tell you sure.. on ice but not in powder snow...... try em for yourself. Powder snow does not stop my ATV at all. It cuts through and those screws bite. Worth their weight in Kold. LOL

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