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    Default Adding extra chain to tire chains

    I was looking for info on how to add extra chain to my existing rear chains on my 2520. I went in the woods the other day and plowed the snow off of my trails and had a hard time coming back up the hill on frozen dirt. I had to go real slow while the chains would grab and move me forward. I was thinking about adding some in the middle (like front to back) and see if that would help using quick links and some extra chain... Any help would be appriciated!
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    Default Re: Adding extra chain to tire chains

    What you are talking about would help. Or you could add more cross links across the tires as well. If you go with cross links get the ones with V bars for better bite on snow and ice.

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    Default Re: Adding extra chain to tire chains

    Quote Originally Posted by George2615 View Post
    What you are talking about would help. Or you could add more cross links across the tires as well. If you go with cross links get the ones with V bars for better bite on snow and ice.
    I think he is talking about making the chains into H style links. Or duo type links
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    Default Re: Adding extra chain to tire chains

    Quote Originally Posted by 204saskman View Post
    I think he is talking about making the chains into H style links. Or duo type links
    Yes, something like that. It also makes me crazy trying to get my links spaced even around the tires, so if I did an "H" able I could get them a little closer and get rid of a bumpy ride. My buddy has some semi-truck chains that are new and he said I could use them if I wanted. Has anyone added chain to their existing chains to make them an H style?
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    Default Re: Adding extra chain to tire chains

    What style of tires are installed?
    If turf tires, then add more cross chain, ie every 3rd link which would result in nice ride and always in ground contact.
    If industrial or deep farm threads then U have little choice but to go to the H pattern as the cross links simply fall into the deep grooves and become rather useless.
    The problem in building up a H pattern is that you will need a massive amount of S hooks to attach all those short lengths.
    Better might be to add some largish rings between , say, 1 and 2 (skip 2-3) and then 3-4 etc.
    To fabricate the rings you can slice sections of pipe (say 4 or 5") and weld to the cross links.
    Another and better solution would be to obtain a coil spring as used on a pick-up suspension and create rings by cutting and welding. Again using the 1-2 3-4 pattern
    Coil springs being a hardened steel will wear longer.
    However all in all with the time involved purchasing new chains might prove to be the way to go.

    My tractor is turf installed and I modified my chains to be every 3rd link.
    The ride is so nice that I often wonder if I forgot to install the chains.

    Originally my chains were H pattern using S hooks to create the box pattern but every 4-5 outings or so one of the S hooks let go and I had a horrible tangled mess to content with. And usually far from the shop.
    After a half dozen frustrating episodes I pulled the chains and completely modified them to cross or ladder chains and then later added the extra cross links to make a slicker ride.
    Withe my earlier (5 spaced) ladder configuration I noticed that I had a slip/grab situation as well as a very bumpy ride. The additional crosses completely cured that situation.
    Another observation is that the 3link ladders do not dig in while the 5 link would slip/dig like crazy to the point that I once needed to actually jack the tractor and fill in the holes in order to get out.

    Hope my experience and observations help some.
    Good luck.

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    Default Re: Adding extra chain to tire chains

    Quote Originally Posted by PILOON View Post
    What style of tires are installed?
    If turf tires, then add more cross chain, ie every 3rd link which would result in nice ride and always in ground contact.
    If industrial or deep farm threads then U have little choice but to go to the H pattern as the cross links simply fall into the deep grooves and become rather useless.
    The problem in building up a H pattern is that you will need a massive amount of S hooks to attach all those short lengths.
    Better might be to add some largish rings between , say, 1 and 2 (skip 2-3) and then 3-4 etc.
    To fabricate the rings you can slice sections of pipe (say 4 or 5") and weld to the cross links.
    Another and better solution would be to obtain a coil spring as used on a pick-up suspension and create rings by cutting and welding. Again using the 1-2 3-4 pattern
    Coil springs being a hardened steel will wear longer.
    However all in all with the time involved purchasing new chains might prove to be the way to go.

    My tractor is turf installed and I modified my chains to be every 3rd link.
    The ride is so nice that I often wonder if I forgot to install the chains.

    Originally my chains were H pattern using S hooks to create the box pattern but every 4-5 outings or so one of the S hooks let go and I had a horrible tangled mess to content with. And usually far from the shop.
    After a half dozen frustrating episodes I pulled the chains and completely modified them to cross or ladder chains and then later added the extra cross links to make a slicker ride.
    Withe my earlier (5 spaced) ladder configuration I noticed that I had a slip/grab situation as well as a very bumpy ride. The additional crosses completely cured that situation.
    Another observation is that the 3link ladders do not dig in while the 5 link would slip/dig like crazy to the point that I once needed to actually jack the tractor and fill in the holes in order to get out.

    Hope my experience and observations help some.
    Good luck.
    My tires are the R4's and that's exactly what mine was doing, slip, grab. I was thinking of using the chain links that screw together instead of S hooks. Figured if they came loose I could retighten them or add lock tight when assembling. If I could get spacing right and get chains up on tires more it would help ride and grip. You are right, a lot of my chain is down in the lugs....
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    Default Re: Adding extra chain to tire chains

    While it would be a lot of work and time, creating an H pattern chain will definitely help with smooth ride. There's really no difference in mine between bare rubber and running with the chains on pavement other than the jingle of the chains. Plus, the grip is excellent.

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    Default Re: Adding extra chain to tire chains

    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly807 View Post
    While it would be a lot of work and time, creating an H pattern chain will definitely help with smooth ride. There's really no difference in mine between bare rubber and running with the chains on pavement other than the jingle of the chains. Plus, the grip is excellent.

    Sean
    Oh I agree.
    Mine were originally that H pattern and the traction and ride great.
    Problem was that the H grid was assembled using S hooks to join up the corners.
    All to often the S would open up and I was left with that tangled mess.

    With turfs I have lots of choice.
    Unfortunately industrial and ag tires there is not much choice.

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    Default Re: Adding extra chain to tire chains

    My buddy brought me a brand new set of semi truck chains today, now I have to decide if I want to rip them apart and add sections or just wait until this winter is over and wait until I take them off... the chains are a little smaller than my tractor chains but I still think it would work...
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