I Need a Longer Trailer

[ddivinia]

Originally Posted by texasjohn

See OP entry

Says 1500# I am looking for dimensions. Am I looking over it?

D.

[JESSE1]

Originally Posted by ddivinia

What sizes bales are those?

D.

I've never weighed them but a 535 is supposed to put up a 1500-2000# bale. These are heavy. The size is 5' wide by up to 6' diameter. I've usually kept the bales no bigger than 5' diameter but this summer I increased the size to nearly maximum.

[ddivinia]

Originally Posted by JESSE1

I've never weighed them but a 535 is supposed to put up a 1500-2000# bale. These are heavy. The size is 5' wide by up to 6' diameter. I've usually kept the bales no bigger than 5' diameter but this summer I increased the size to nearly maximum.

5' bales can be difficult to transport. Do you have to get permits to haul a 10' wide load? Or do you just roll with it?

The transport question is one of the reasons I went with a 467 which is a 4 * 6 max bale. Usually the bales I have been buying are 4 * 5 I think this year I will bale 4 * 6 since they are for my own use anyway. Then again, I will be selling a lot - they will be 4 * 5. :-)

D.

[JESSE1]

I've talked with the state troopers about the overwidth loads. Basically, as long as you have farm trailer tags and the load is tied down they look the other way. I was passed yesterday by a city police and two deputies and no one even slowed down. It probably is up to the individual trooper. I'm sure they could stop you if they wanted. If I was hauling and selling hay I'd go with the size baler you have and make 4x6 or 4x5 rolls.

[mlauk]

Another option is to make a 5 x 5 1/2 bale which would allow you to put 10 bales on the bottom (with a center pop up on the ramp), 4 on top and then you could put one on the gooseneck for a total of 15 bales. In Texas, I think you can buy 10' wide hay hauling permit for $10 a year.

[JESSE1]

Where would you go for the permit? I could actually put two rolls on the ramp. I can lay two 4x4's across the ramps for the hay to lay on. Other than that, the load just gets too heavy to pull with a pickup. The pickup and trailer weigh about 15,000#'s without a load.

[mlauk]

Here is the link for oversize annual hay permit. I've never needed to apply since I have only hauled 4 x 6 rolls.

Annual Hay Permits

I crunched the numbers and you are slightly better off hauling (12) 5 x 6 rolls than (14) 5 x 5.5 rolls.

Bale size Volume Lbs/Ft^3 Roll Wgt # Rolls Total Weight
5x6 141.4 10.6 1500 12 18,000
5x5.5 118.8 10.6 1260 14 17,600

I think you are allowed up to 34,000 lbs total with farm tags, so any more rolls would be overweight.

[rutwad]

Originally Posted by JESSE1

I could actually put two rolls on the ramp. I can lay two 4x4's across the ramps for the hay to lay on. Other than that, the load just gets too heavy to pull with a pickup.

If you get a bigger trailer, will you be pulling it with something else? If you put 2 bales across the rear and one more on top, your at 21k of just hay! Plus the 15k of your truck and trailer puts you at 36k. If you get a bigger, heavier trailer for more bales, well, how much are you willing to haul?

[JESSE1]

I wouldn't try to haul any more than that with this truck. I could hook up my '59 White and haul more but it doesn't have air conditioning!

I looked at the requirements for the hay permit and I think it's only for commercial carriers. I don't think I'd need one for my own use, although I could be wrong.

[mlauk]

I'm not to sure if you need a permit either, but have heard from some people that you need it. There is a section in the Drivers Handbook that exempts farmers hauling cylindrical bales from the 102 inch width standard, but I would have to read it again to be sure. I've got to say I'm jealous of your '59 White.