Dyna Bead Balancing Solution - Page 3

patrick_g · 03-15-2008, 05:23 PM

Larry, I don't fault your assertion, most likely correct. I'm not sure how many several is or if I would care about the expense. Until or unless it were shown to definitely be a considerable expense, more than the difference between reduced rolling resistance tires and regular tires, I probably wouldn't care. Of course, if I were trying to justify the circulating ball thingies I'd be glad to trot out this justification.

There is a lot to be said for the circulating balls. No one single overwhelming advantage, as I see it, but lots of little ones do add up. In some instances just being able to use Slime would make a difference for me. I like my wheels/tires to be in good balance on the highway but to not go flat off road from Locust trees, bois d'arc, and such. (Glad to report we don't have mesquite.)

Pat

PaulChristenson · 03-16-2008, 02:37 AM

The Centramic is a better system...because it is independent of the tire...

SPYDERLK · 03-16-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulChristenson

The Centramic is a better system...because it is independent of the tire...

Yes! I saw these a long time ago and didnt know they were still around. Lot of money tho - if they lasted forever I guess that would be ok, but the disclaimer at above 75mph also puts me off.
larry

schmism · 03-16-2008, 01:43 PM

in the 4x4 world ballanceing big meats (tires 35" and over) is very difficult to do. most (if not all) dont fit on ballance machines.

You can use real ballance poweder, people have been known to use copper/steel bb's, but the latest and greates for a DIY version is airsoft bb's

the little plastic bb's, they dont make as much noise as the steel version and are just a fuz bigger than "real" balance bb's/powder. they will NOT fit through a reg valve stem.

PaulChristenson · 03-17-2008, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPYDERLK

Yes! I saw these a long time ago and didnt know they were still around. Lot of money tho - if they lasted forever I guess that would be ok, but the disclaimer at above 75mph also puts me off.
larry

Well, technically most trailer tires are not designed to operate at those speeds...

That is where I heard about them and started using them on my horse trailers initially...

patrick_g · 03-17-2008, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schmism

You can use real ballance poweder, people have been known to use copper/steel bb's, but the latest and greates for a DIY version is airsoft bb's

the little plastic bb's, they dont make as much noise as the steel version and are just a fuz bigger than "real" balance bb's/powder. they will NOT fit through a reg valve stem.

Have you seen what happens to the AirSoft ammo after several 10's of thousands of miles? My concern is that it may at least partially grind itself into a powder and then you are back at the caking and packing question.

I wonder about the efficacy of lead shot or the new tungsten alloy shot. I'd expect the lead shot to not be quite so noisy as steel BB shot and not sure about the tungsten. Of course, in the 4x4 venue of your original statement it is unlikely anyone running big meat could hear the difference. They probably couldn't hear a tire filled with little jingle bells.

Pat

xlr82v2 · 03-17-2008, 12:09 PM

How do you know how much to add to a tire? Is it possible to add too much?

patrick_g · 03-17-2008, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr82v2

How do you know how much to add to a tire? Is it possible to add too much?

Well, completely full would be too much. At what point there would be a breakdown of "more is better", I don't know.

A good starting point would be the charts on the web site for the ceramic beads. They recommend how many ounces to use on what sized tire. Using the same weight of fill should produce similar results if the weight isn't in too few pieces. (not likely with the AirSoft ammo.)

Pat

dullpain · 03-19-2008, 01:34 PM

GIJoe - Go to Tire Balancing Products . Have their product in my 1 ton Dodge dually . Liked it so much also put it in my 25' gooseneck trailer. Ride never been so smooth , tire wear never so good and even. Rotate never balance again. Buy one extra bag of balance beads, if you have flat , just replace. Easy , Effective , Excellent.

GIJOE · 03-19-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dullpain

GIJoe - Go to Tire Balancing Products . Have their product in my 1 ton Dodge dually . Liked it so much also put it in my 25' gooseneck trailer. Ride never been so smooth , tire wear never so good and even. Rotate never balance again. Buy one extra bag of balance beads, if you have flat , just replace. Easy , Effective , Excellent.

Dullpain,
Thanks for the info. That's the same product I posted about in the first post. I have decided to give it a try when I buy a new set of tires.

Joe

03-15-2008, 05:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
patrick_g Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Central OK Posts: 2,899	Re: Dyna Bead Balancing Solution Larry, I don't fault your assertion, most likely correct. I'm not sure how many several is or if I would care about the expense. Until or unless it were shown to definitely be a considerable expense, more than the difference between reduced rolling resistance tires and regular tires, I probably wouldn't care. Of course, if I were trying to justify the circulating ball thingies I'd be glad to trot out this justification. There is a lot to be said for the circulating balls. No one single overwhelming advantage, as I see it, but lots of little ones do add up. In some instances just being able to use Slime would make a difference for me. I like my wheels/tires to be in good balance on the highway but to not go flat off road from Locust trees, bois d'arc, and such. (Glad to report we don't have mesquite.) Pat __________________ Never wrestle with a pig (however titled) as you just get dirty and the pig has all the fun.

03-16-2008, 02:37 AM	#22 (permalink)
PaulChristenson Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,871	Re: Dyna Bead Balancing Solution The Centramic is a better system...because it is independent of the tire... __________________ Paul in VT I used to own an ant farm but had to give it up. I couldn't find tractors small enough to fit it. -- Steven Wright

03-16-2008, 01:43 PM	#24 (permalink)
schmism Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 62014 IL (outside STL MO) Posts: 2,557	Re: Dyna Bead Balancing Solution in the 4x4 world ballanceing big meats (tires 35" and over) is very difficult to do. most (if not all) dont fit on ballance machines. You can use real ballance poweder, people have been known to use copper/steel bb's, but the latest and greates for a DIY version is airsoft bb's the little plastic bb's, they dont make as much noise as the steel version and are just a fuz bigger than "real" balance bb's/powder. they will NOT fit through a reg valve stem. __________________ Steve - TC33D 4x4 FEL, dual rear remotes with toys

03-17-2008, 12:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
xlr82v2 Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southwestern Illinois Posts: 567	Re: Dyna Bead Balancing Solution How do you know how much to add to a tire? Is it possible to add too much? __________________ _____________________ Brian 2007 Mahindra 3525 1952 Ford 8N

03-19-2008, 01:34 PM	#29 (permalink)
dullpain Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 459	Re: Dyna Bead Balancing Solution GIJoe - Go to Tire Balancing Products . Have their product in my 1 ton Dodge dually . Liked it so much also put it in my 25' gooseneck trailer. Ride never been so smooth , tire wear never so good and even. Rotate never balance again. Buy one extra bag of balance beads, if you have flat , just replace. Easy , Effective , Excellent.

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