Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Elite Member schmism's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    4,945
    Location
    Peoria IL
    Tractor
    New holland TC(33)

    Default brakes front vs rear axle

    Was this just discussed? i think i remember seeing a thread, but couldnt find anything so ill ask.

    Advantages/disadvantages about brakes on the front vs rear on a tandam axle.

    is there a reason they seem to be on the rear when only one axle has them?
    Steve - TC33D 4x4 FEL, dual rear remotes with toys

  2. #2
    Platinum Member Heywood Jannockitov's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    807
    Location
    Near Schomberg, Ontario Canada, the equestrian center of the universe
    Tractor
    2008 John Deere 5425 cab, 1986 Case 580 Super E, 1973 IH454

    Default Re: brakes front vs rear axle

    My guess is that if the brakes are on the rear axle of a tandem axle trailer, you would get more effective braking, considering the tendency of a towing vehicle to nosedive if applying the brakes hard. A nosediving tow vehicle would lift at the rear, which in turn takes weight off the front trailer axle. If this was the braked axle on the trailer you would lose braking effectiveness. A bumper-pull would be more prone to this than a goose-neck, I suppose. All tandem trailers I have owned had brakes on both axles.
    Definition of "Horse": A 4 legged mammal looking for an inconvenient place and expensive way to die.

  3. #3
    Elite Member dfkrug's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    4,662
    Location
    NorCal
    Tractor
    05 Kioti CK30HST w/ Prairie Dog backhoe

    Default Re: brakes front vs rear axle

    Quote Originally Posted by schmism
    is there a reason they seem to be on the rear when only one axle has them?

    I ordered my tandem trailer made from a manufacturer in Fresno and they
    always put the brakes on the front axle or both. Never just the rear. I
    assumed that was cuz the weight would shift forward during braking.

  4. #4
    Elite Member schmism's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    4,945
    Location
    Peoria IL
    Tractor
    New holland TC(33)

    Default Re: brakes front vs rear axle

    see i see logic for both,

    when you weight a trailer (bumper or goosneck) its always weighted front heavy for tong weight... does that mean that the front axle always carries more weight? (i dont know) or less weight because the tow veihical carries some?

    was looking at a new(ish) 18' car hauler and it was listed rear axle brakes.

    18' Trailerman Trailer 2008 Model
    Steve - TC33D 4x4 FEL, dual rear remotes with toys

  5. #5
    Elite Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    3,261
    Location
    the Steernbos (Holland)
    Tractor
    Zetor 3011, Zetor 5718

    Default Re: brakes front vs rear axle

    Quote Originally Posted by schmism
    Advantages/disadvantages about brakes on the front vs rear on a tandam axle.
    In Holland we put ABS sensors on the front axle of a tandem because its most prone to brake slip.
    Over here, the law counts a trailer with brakes on just 1 axle for a non braked trailer. IMHO, practically there is not much difference between 1 axle braked, or no trailer brakes... when comparing risk to cost, getting 2 axles braked when buying a new trailer, is a better investment than an average life insurance policy.
    Free scrap is a good investment !!!
    “The worst enemy of life, freedom and the common decencies is total anarchy; their second worst enemy is total efficiency” · Aldous Huxley
    __________________
    1967 Zetor 3011, restoration in progress: Technically new, just needs the cosmetics..
    1973 Zetor 5718, shiny paint, high houred, home made loader
    1978 Zetor 5718, low houred but rough
    1998 Volvo S70 2.5 TDI
    2007 Volvo 440 1.9 TD based dirt buggy

  6. #6
    Veteran Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    1,332
    Location
    Tombstone Az
    Tractor
    KIOTI LK30

    Default Re: brakes front vs rear axle

    I think they brake the rear axle because when the brakes are applied it will cause the trailer to tend to pull straight. Braking the front axle might cause the trailer to try and piviot around the front axle and turn left or right.

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    45
    Location
    Northfield, Michigan
    Tractor
    JD4610

    Default Re: brakes front vs rear axle

    On a tandem set with spring equalizers the front axle will tend to pivot upward while the rear axle will pivot downward when the brakes are applied when moving forward. This is due to braking torque being transmitted through the axles and springs to the spring mounting points, which causes the spring/axle assemblies to act like a swingarm.

    One of my trailers is a tandem with electric brakes, and when manually applied with full force and with the trailer empty, the leading axle will actually lift several inches off of the ground.

    So, if the brakes are only applied to the front axle, braking effectiveness will be decreased because the more braking force that is applied, the more lift and thus less traction the tires will have.

    Jay

  8. #8
    Super Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2000
    Posts
    6,553

    Default Re: brakes front vs rear axle

    In my book, 2 axles = 2 sets of brakes. No excuses.

    jb

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
© 2014 TractorByNet.com. TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners.