Backhoe hauling question

john_bud · 08-06-2008, 02:01 AM

Hi,

Put the hoe on my trailer and it sort of takes over. The trailer is 18' long and that's about 4 foot too short.

If I roll the hoe back and balance the load the bucket is off the deck. I was thinking that I can get a couple pieces of 6" channel 6-8' long and bolt them to the deck so they are sticking out the back 3-4'. Then tie the bucket down to that.

Thoughts?

legal / enforement ?

I would also need to make a front cross bar that would hold the FEL bucket up or it will smack the truck!

And some wheel chocks to ensure the tractor stays put.

Oh boy, that's a lot, eh?

It's a 12k trailer by the way.

PaulChristenson · 08-06-2008, 02:46 AM

For Illinois...
A combination of vehicles specially designed to transport motor vehicles
may have an overall length of 65 ft. plus a front overhang of 3 ft. and a
rear overhang of 4 ft. on Class I and II highways. On all other highways
and streets, the maximum overall length is 60 ft. including load.

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/pu...dsd_x14210.pdf

Didn't find Wisconsin data...

Ductape · 08-06-2008, 08:47 AM

You won't want your extension more than 3' beyond your tail light lens.

tlbuser · 08-06-2008, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_bud

Hi,

Put the hoe on my trailer and it sort of takes over. The trailer is 18' long and that's about 4 foot too short.

Thoughts?

Why not load the hoe end first and rest the bucket in the bed of the truck? You may have to block up the rear bucket to keep your turn radius though.

Diamondpilot · 08-06-2008, 10:57 AM

I agree, back the thing on the trailer but do not put the BH in the trucks bed. Seems like it will cause more problems than anything. Once on the trailer swing the BH to one side and rest it on the trailer then curl your FEL bucket under and this should shorten the rig enough and balance the load better for your truck.

Chris

john_bud · 08-06-2008, 06:14 PM

The bucket in the bed of the truck may be fine for going straight, but on a turn ---- eh, not so good!

I got a weight distribution hitch today and will try loading backwards. I think there is room for the bucket on the tongue of the trailer. Might help if I cut out the jack and move it forward. I'd be worried about how far off the back the FEL bucket would wind up being.

Putting the hoe to the side won't save much room. The bucket is 3' wide and it can't go very far to the side or it's off the trailer. I don't think it would gain much if any at all.

KB9UDE · 08-06-2008, 07:37 PM

What is the weight rating of your trailer in the pic??

John

Diamondpilot · 08-06-2008, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_bud

I think there is room for the bucket on the tongue of the trailer. Might help if I cut out the jack and move it forward.

Be careful with that. If you get it too far forward you will do damage to your tailgate if you lower it with the trailer attached. Also with a forward tongue jack if you try towing your trailer with a SUV you will not be able to lift the rear hatch if too far forward. Trust me, been there done that on both points.

Chris

Builder · 08-06-2008, 09:45 PM

Quote:

What is the weight rating of your trailer in the pic??

12K.

Remember the backhoe boom and the FEL needs to be chained & bindered to the trailer deck across the bucket. At least that's the way it is in my state.

Your trailer looks way maxed out and easy prey for the cherry tops. A gooseneck would be just the ticket.

Willl · 08-06-2008, 10:33 PM

Regardless of it's weight capacity, it's too short.

08-06-2008, 02:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
john_bud Super Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: WI Posts: 5,437	Backhoe hauling question Hi, Put the hoe on my trailer and it sort of takes over. The trailer is 18' long and that's about 4 foot too short. If I roll the hoe back and balance the load the bucket is off the deck. I was thinking that I can get a couple pieces of 6" channel 6-8' long and bolt them to the deck so they are sticking out the back 3-4'. Then tie the bucket down to that. Thoughts? legal / enforement ? I would also need to make a front cross bar that would hold the FEL bucket up or it will smack the truck! And some wheel chocks to ensure the tractor stays put. Oh boy, that's a lot, eh? It's a 12k trailer by the way. __________________

08-06-2008, 02:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
PaulChristenson Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,871	Re: Backhoe hauling question For Illinois... A combination of vehicles specially designed to transport motor vehicles may have an overall length of 65 ft. plus a front overhang of 3 ft. and a rear overhang of 4 ft. on Class I and II highways. On all other highways and streets, the maximum overall length is 60 ft. including load. http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/pu...dsd_x14210.pdf Didn't find Wisconsin data... __________________ Paul in VT I used to own an ant farm but had to give it up. I couldn't find tractors small enough to fit it. -- Steven Wright

08-06-2008, 08:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ductape Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,546	Re: Backhoe hauling question You won't want your extension more than 3' beyond your tail light lens.

08-06-2008, 10:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Diamondpilot Platinum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Daleville, IN Posts: 936	Re: Backhoe hauling question I agree, back the thing on the trailer but do not put the BH in the trucks bed. Seems like it will cause more problems than anything. Once on the trailer swing the BH to one side and rest it on the trailer then curl your FEL bucket under and this should shorten the rig enough and balance the load better for your truck. Chris

08-06-2008, 06:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
john_bud Super Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: WI Posts: 5,437	Re: Backhoe hauling question The bucket in the bed of the truck may be fine for going straight, but on a turn ---- eh, not so good! I got a weight distribution hitch today and will try loading backwards. I think there is room for the bucket on the tongue of the trailer. Might help if I cut out the jack and move it forward. I'd be worried about how far off the back the FEL bucket would wind up being. Putting the hoe to the side won't save much room. The bucket is 3' wide and it can't go very far to the side or it's off the trailer. I don't think it would gain much if any at all. __________________

08-06-2008, 07:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
KB9UDE Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tower Hill, IL USA Posts: 248	Re: Backhoe hauling question What is the weight rating of your trailer in the pic?? John __________________ John Deere 4120 Power Reverser, 400x Loader-73"HD bucket John Deere 2320, 200cx Loader-61" bucket Simplicity SUNSTAR, MMM, Hyd. front blade Snapper ZF2500KH zero turn Acts 2:38

08-06-2008, 10:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
Willl Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northwest, WA Posts: 1,060	Re: Backhoe hauling question Regardless of it's weight capacity, it's too short. __________________ My PhotoBucket If you can read this, your 'Ignore List' isn't working.

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