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Old 08-09-2008, 12:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I bet you still have to take the cab off to work on it too!
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Old 08-09-2008, 04:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I bet you still have to take the cab off to work on it too!
Probably, but once you lift off the cab and front clip, and roll the chassis out from under them, it is so much easier to work on than a GM or Dodge. LOL!!!!!
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Old 08-09-2008, 05:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Probably, but once you lift off the cab and front clip, and roll the chassis out from under them, it is so much easier to work on than a GM or Dodge. LOL!!!!!
You can take the cab off a GM truck, too.
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Old 08-09-2008, 05:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You can take the cab off a GM truck, too.
Yes, Builder, you have got me there
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Old 08-09-2008, 07:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The "article" touts the 4 door loaded lux trux.
That is where the fat margins are, with paint and trim options costing many hundreds of dollars.
I don't think I saw in that "article" an image of a chassis cab ready for a work body to be fitted, or any other "Commercial" application.
The emphasis is on MORE POWER, later there is casual mention of improved fuel efficiency, but that is way after the "Big Sting" headline.
So farmers, contractors and other haulers do not care about buying trucks optioned out for luxury? We do not buy leather interiors and such because of the fact we do not like cold seats in the winter or hot seats in the summer but we do go with other luxury items like ac, cd player, power windows ...... My friend who has a large farm has three trucks like I do, however two of them are Lariat editions F-150's. We spend a lot of time in our trucks so we try to make them as comfortable as possible. And anyone buying these trucks already knows the different ways we can deck these trucks out. 4 door trucks are great on job sites and around farms, in fact, that is why crew cab trucks were even built to begin with. These trucks are work trucks and even with all the luxury items available for the super duty line they still ride like a work truck. I am waiting for the F-100 to come out so I can look it over and test drive it as I want a smaller truck (larger then the Ranger though) but with good mileage and a comfortable ride to use for gathering parts, materials, bouncing from field to field, going to shows and other places and hauling my daughter around. Something a little more refined but still useful around the farm and our job sites. And it will be decked out with a lot of luxury items.
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Horsepower figures are just a sales gimmick . Why would you need 400 hp in a pickup ? Torque is what you guys should be looking for . 400hp is needed to keep a 40 ton semi rolling against the wind . It's the 1600lbft of torque they have that gets it all moving . You would find that a 6 litre 6 cylinder Diesel with 250hp and 500lbft of torque is all you could possibly want . It's the long crank throw that an inline 6 has got that gives them the grunt to pull boats out of the water etc . As they used to say at Nascar "Horsepower sells , Torque propels" . I'd be looking for a good clean early Dodge with the Cummins if you want a good truck that will last 20 years .
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:44 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I am waiting for the F-100 to come out so I can look it over and test drive it as I want a smaller truck (larger then the Ranger though) but with good mileage and a comfortable ride to use for gathering parts, materials, bouncing from field to field, going to shows and other places and hauling my daughter around. Something a little more refined but still useful around the farm and our job sites. And it will be decked out with a lot of luxury items.
Just an FYI Robert . . .

Ford F-100 put on hold - Autoblog

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Ford's plans to manufacture the F-100 pickup, its answer for consumers who want a more fuel-efficient pickup, have been shelved (for now). A proposed smaller and lighter sibling to the popular F-150 pickup, the F-100 would have been built at the Michigan Truck Plant in Wayne, Michigan. Instead of designing a new small truck, one that consumers may not have warmed up to in the first place, Ford is reportedly making an "unprecedented" investment in more fuel-efficient powerplants to drop under the hood of the best-selling F-150. According to Ford, much of the funding will be directed towards its EcoBoost engines that utilize turbocharging and direct injection to deliver increased power and efficiency. The company is also looking at a technology called "ethanol boosting" which injects a small amount of the biofuel into the engine to increase fuel economy even further. Investing in new engine technology is expensive, but Ford is counting on reduced warranty costs (they have decreased by $1.2 billion in the past 18 months) to help offset development fees.
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Old 08-10-2008, 09:28 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Ford's plans to manufacture the F-100 pickup, its answer for consumers who want a more fuel-efficient pickup, have been shelved (for now). A proposed smaller and lighter sibling to the popular F-150 pickup, the F-100 would have been built at the Michigan Truck Plant in Wayne, Michigan. Instead of designing a new small truck, one that consumers may not have warmed up to in the first place, Ford is reportedly making an "unprecedented" investment in more fuel-efficient powerplants to drop under the hood of the best-selling F-150. According to Ford, much of the funding will be directed towards its EcoBoost engines that utilize turbocharging and direct injection to deliver increased power and efficiency. The company is also looking at a technology called "ethanol boosting" which injects a small amount of the biofuel into the engine to increase fuel economy even further. Investing in new engine technology is expensive, but Ford is counting on reduced warranty costs (they have decreased by $1.2 billion in the past 18 months) to help offset development fees.
Yes those biofuels are so available at everystation I visit. NOT. That is my first thought. I guess the oil industry and the car industry are working hand in hand on this. They do after all depend on each other. Guess I better go read up on these new technologies.
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Old 08-10-2008, 04:59 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ford F-100 put on hold - Autoblog
That would work as well. The main thing is I need something efficient, comfortable and useful. My 98 F-150 is getting old, unreliable and isn't as useful as I need as it is a regular cab.
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:04 PM   #20 (permalink)
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After the moths left my wallet I am resolved to make do with my anemic 96 Dodge Cumins with all of 185 HP. and 420 pounds of torque!
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