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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    Quote Originally Posted by K7LN View Post
    Why did you have to replace it? OK, bad pump not bad O-ring. I've seen some of the O-ring installations leak because the O-ring took a set after many years. My experience with this has only been with Mopars.
    The worst leaking o rings for me are behind the aircondition compressors on delco remy cars, and the o-rings in the quick connectors for the air-condition at the firewall on cars. Several brands have leaked the Freon there.But Jap orings on engines hardly leak, and on valve covers are reusable?Jy
    Okay, Legal disclaimer: Old but not senile, definitely do not have the answer to everything!

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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    UPDATE - 11-8-10 - I went ahead and bought a Fel-pro gasket (instead of the RTV) to have on hand in case the hard rubber/plastic OEM gasket needed to be replaced..

    After looking at the pan and seeing several places it was leaking i dropped the pan yesterday afternoon.. The OEM gasket was VERY hard and not very flexible at all, so I reinstalled the pan with the Fel-pro gasket thinking it may conform to the pan contour better..

    At first the ATF dripped out of the pan at a good rate, but after tightening up the bolts a little more it finally stopped.. it looks like the pan possibly may be slightly out of square and since the OEM gasket was so inflexible the AFT was able to seep out by the gasket

    thanks for all the advice

    Brian
    Bedford, VA
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    Co-owner (with my father) of John Deere 790, 30 HP, 4x4, 513 cutter, 70 FEL
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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    Did you pound the holes out backwards slightly with a tap hammer (little ballpeen) like I mentioned or even check them on a flat surface?

    If not this one may leak as bad or worse, you cant properly tighten a pan that has the holes pulled in. I hope you got it but if not keep that in mind.

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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    Quote Originally Posted by Car Doc View Post
    Did you pound the holes out backwards slightly with a tap hammer (little ballpeen) like I mentioned or even check them on a flat surface?

    If not this one may leak as bad or worse, you cant properly tighten a pan that has the holes pulled in. I hope you got it but if not keep that in mind.
    I checked and none of the holes were misformed at all. I also eyeballed the entire lip (they had a rolled edge) of the pan and there was no obvious issues that i saw

    As of today I had no more leaks at all.. Which is a good thing..

    Brian
    Bedford, VA
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    Co-owner (with my father) of John Deere 790, 30 HP, 4x4, 513 cutter, 70 FEL
    2012 Nissan Xterra Pro-4x

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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    if it was a 50 yr old tractor I might make one or use the right stuff. for that nice truck.. oem gasket no questions asked.

    soundguy

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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    I checked and none of the holes were misformed at all. I also eyeballed the entire lip (they had a rolled edge) of the pan and there was no obvious issues that i saw

    As of today I had no more leaks at all.. Which is a good thing..

    Brian
    Glad to hear you got it no leak is definitely a good thing!

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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    I have a 97 Dodge/Cummins 2500 with the 47RE. I've had the trans pan off at least 10 times and used the same rubber OEM reusable gasket with no leaks.

    I always wiped everything clean and torqued the bolts.

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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    Quote Originally Posted by masscity View Post
    I have a 97 Dodge/Cummins 2500 with the 47RE. I've had the trans pan off at least 10 times and used the same rubber OEM reusable gasket with no leaks.

    I always wiped everything clean and torqued the bolts.
    I just have to ask-why would the pan need to come off at least 10 times?

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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    wasn't it the late 90's hd dodge's that went thru input shafts pretty quick?

    soundguy

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    Default Re: Oil pan - Use gasket or Hi Temp Red RTV

    Quote Originally Posted by Car Doc View Post
    I just have to ask-why would the pan need to come off at least 10 times?
    One thought - The OEM pan does not come with a drain valve - so if you wanted to drain/refill the transmission you would have to drop that pan.

    I added a B&M drain valve to mine which makes dropping the pan less messier..

    brian
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    Co-owner (with my father) of John Deere 790, 30 HP, 4x4, 513 cutter, 70 FEL
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