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01-20-2012, 11:28 PM #11
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01-20-2012, 11:31 PM #12
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01-21-2012, 04:20 AM #13
Re: Can you "up-rate" a new trailer from 9,990# to 14k#?
Well- did you get that online? Because the NC Driver's handbook online is WRONG! They only showed part a. of that law, they failed to include part b.
Here is the ACTUAL LAW from here-
Chapter 20
"(2a) Class A Motor Vehicle. A combination of motor vehicles that meets either of the following descriptions:
a. Has a combined GVWR of at least 26,001 pounds and includes as part of the combination a towed unit that has a GVWR of at least 10,001 pounds.
b. Has a combined GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds and includes as part of the combination a towed unit that has a GVWR of at least 10,001 pounds."
Great huh? No wonder people get so confused about all this when the state itself can't even get it right in their own Driver's Handbook
All RED text above was so colored by me for clarification.Last edited by Skyco; 01-21-2012 at 04:46 AM.
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01-21-2012, 04:29 AM #14
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01-21-2012, 08:05 AM #15
Re: Can you "up-rate" a new trailer from 9,990# to 14k#?
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." George Patton
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01-21-2012, 08:27 AM #16
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01-21-2012, 09:01 AM #17
Re: Can you "up-rate" a new trailer from 9,990# to 14k#?
JB, can you tell me more about registering a home made trailer in CT - what forms are required? Sorry to jump in here but I have a home made trailer I bought used a year ago that has dual 3500 lb axles and is built like a tank. It is registered now at 2900 lbs but I think if I add brakes to both axles, it should qualify as a 7K trailer. I was thinking I would add the brakes and get it inspected. Just don't know how to go about doing that in CT. I can't find anything on the DMV website on getting a trailer inspected. Again, to the OP, sorry for the interruption.
Here's a pic (and yeah, I was over the limit as it sits with my 2,700 lb tractor on it).
Chris
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01-21-2012, 09:36 AM #18
Re: Can you "up-rate" a new trailer from 9,990# to 14k#?
Don't know, I don't understand why they wrote it that way. I live in SC but have land in NC, I tow over 10k rated trailers there all the time, but I'm good with my SC license, which is just a regular license.
If I move to NC someday I will have to upgrade my license. Furthermore I can find nothing online that explains what is different, in NC, as far as testing to get a class A instead of their normal class C (for cars etc) license
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01-21-2012, 09:52 AM #19
Re: Can you "up-rate" a new trailer from 9,990# to 14k#?
An update...
This has all been very educational. But from you guys and from other discussions my brother and I have had.
My brother called a state weigh station, the state police, and the VDMV. They all said the same thing. They don't really care about the 'derated' number when they pull you over, they go straight to the axle ratings, which are generally shown correct. Even if the tag is pulled, they'll just look at the lugs and rim diameter and get the axle rating lickity split.
They then look in the door jam of the truck and find the GVWR. Then they add them together. They are looking for that magical 26k# number.
The BIGGEST wrinkle is that my brother's F350 is rated for 13k#. If he got this trailer or any other trailer with two 7k# axles, he would be in trouble at some point.
SOOOOOOOO, he has decided to pass on the good deal. It thought us a valuable lesson, though, because he had a new Leonard 24' 14k# dovetail all tee'd up...a trailer that would have also been 'illegal' for him to tow.
In reality, this trailer weighed ~4,600#. The 12k# 24' dovetail (with fenders...not deckover) he is NOW looking at purchasing weighs closer to 3,000#. So for getting much less trailer, he is only costing himself at most 500# in cargo carrying capacity. 28 feet would have been nice, but I am sure he will be able to make 24 feet work.
And he is, without a doubt, legal.
With that, I thank the brain trust with much appreciation for your collective insight. Where else could I have learned so much and gotten so many opinions in such a short amount of time? You guys are great.
Very sincerely,
KeithKubota BX2230, FEL, Woods BH, 60" MMM, Bagger, 4' Box Blade, PHD, 8' x 20' 10k# Dovetail Trailer
Those of you who think you know it all are particularly annoying to those of us who do.
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01-21-2012, 09:58 AM #20
Re: Can you "up-rate" a new trailer from 9,990# to 14k#?
Mine was originally registered over 20 years ago, and now I just renew by mail. So I can't really help you. You'll have to contact DMV (good luck).
I never had to have a trailer inspected, even my 10k dumper and 9K flatbed, both of these have camp trailer registrations. I know that's weird but that's how they do it here if it's not commercial. The last trailer I registered was the flat bed a few years ago and I don't think I had a title, just filled out the regular reg form from what I remember, but I didn't call it home made.
Once you put brakes on a home made, it might have to be inspected??? but I'm not sure.
I actually have the cell phone number of a high up commercial dmv inspector, but I don't think he'd want me giving it out.
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