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    Default Re: truck battery dead after parking with trailer hooked up

    Quote Originally Posted by joshuabardwell View Post
    I hate having to un-do the U-bolts and take apart the weatherproof box to get the battery out. Also, I hate the idea that if I stored the battery indoors on a charger, I would have to take the time to put it all back together before using the trailer. So I put one of these ring terminal harnesses on it.

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    That way, I can easily put a trickle charger on the battery every once in a while to keep it topped off. My breakaway kit is not wired with a charger circuit, so I can't charge it through the vehicle harness.
    Yeah those are great a real time saver! OReillys has the 2 wire flat ends as a pair for a few bucks. I have them on my Harley and all my mowers and cars that sit awhile. Plus I took all my HF float chargers and put the 2 wire flat ends on them makes it easier to hook anything up to any one of my maintainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwstewar View Post

    Like I said before, I actually prefer it this way. I think GM did it the correct way. It also allows you to use the plug for other things back there. I have my diesel fuel pump rigged up to run off it. I can fill my tractor by plugging into the trailer pig tail. I also have a small water pump rigged up this way so that I can transfer water from the storage tank on the truck to the holding tank of the camper. I also have my yard sprayer rigged up to use the same plug. So, again I'm quite glad that GM did it this way. I would be mad if I had another brand and couldn't use it the way I want and probably would be rewiring it.
    All you would have to do is turn on the key. GM did it wrong, plain and simple. There is a reason Ford, Nissan, Toyota, and Dodge did it the other way.

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    Default Re: truck battery dead after parking with trailer hooked up

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondpilot View Post
    All you would have to do is turn on the key. GM did it wrong, plain and simple. There is a reason Ford, Nissan, Toyota, and Dodge did it the other way.

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    I have to agree with DP on this. When I turn off the key, I expect the power to everything except lighting and emergency flashers to be off.
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    Default Re: truck battery dead after parking with trailer hooked up

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Fowler View Post
    I have to agree with DP on this. When I turn off the key, I expect the power to everything except lighting and emergency flashers to be off.
    That was my thought. If I want accessory power, I generally only want it to be on when the key is in the on or ACC position. Any alternative is just an invitation to run down one's battery. I will say that I have seen a few cars where they have one 12-volt receptacle that is keyed and one that is always on--perhaps if you are going to have some accessory that you want to charge up even when the car is off. I thought that was an okay idea, I guess.

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    My Nissan Titan not only came factory with a sprayed in bed liner but also a water tight 12v receptacle in the bed. Only time I have used it in 6 years was once to plug in a 12v air compressor and many times tailgating to plug in a inverter for the TV and blender. My buddy with a Titan uses his every day to plug in his battery chargers for his cordless tools while on the construction site.

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    Default Re: truck battery dead after parking with trailer hooked up

    I drive Toyota's and have for years and learned to live with the key switched lighter sockets. It has caused me a few times to want to wire one thats hot then I say nah and I forget about it.
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    To each his own, I'm just glad my GM's are done correctly - for my purposes. Just another reason for me to not like Ford.
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    Default Re: truck battery dead after parking with trailer hooked up

    I suppose each company has a reason for wiring the way they do as it seems a split here on how folks like them. I still need to find out why my battery went dead. Didnt get to it yesterday to check the battery on the trailer as weather is kind of crappy with light mist.
    It looks like it will take a bit of work removing battery cables to measure the current draw to the trailer and I have company coming in from Houston today so might be a few days before I get to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwstewar View Post
    To each his own, I'm just glad my GM's are done correctly - for my purposes. Just another reason for me to not like Ford.
    Again, GM does it one way and everyone else does it the proper way for a reason. This thread is a case in point. It might work for you but its caused issues just like this for years in as little time as one may be just at a hotel for the night. Another is a camper left hooked to the tow vehicle for a quick overnight followed by a truck that will not start because the camper backfeed of the truck. I have seen it a dozen times in my business.

    If you need power at the rear run a dedicated circuit.

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    I thought those circuits went dead after 10 minutes or so on GM vehicles? I've always liked having accessory sockets that are hot with the key off. That's a plus!
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