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    Default Tandom trailer blowout

    I had the great displeasure of having a blowout Friday while traveling 60 MPH on the freeway transporting one of my vehicles. I was towing with a GMC Sierra 2500 on I495 with most of my family in the crew cab delivering a car for repair. The experience is one I hope to avoid in the future. It took a few moments to recognize exactly what was going on. Sudden loss of power, speed, with terrible vibration with the sensation of the truck and trailer bouncing madly. The ride was so uncomfortable that at first I thought I lost a wheel off the truck, not the trailer!. I was almost bouncing out of the seat!!! Looking in the rear view mirror I saw white smoke followed by tire fragments flying from the passenger side of the trailer. The heavy traffic west of Boston to either side and behind me fortunately parted like the Red Sea giving me room to slow and pull off to the right shoulder without incident. Fortunately I think the other drivers recognized my problem before I did!

    While I have all the tools and spare trailer tire and wheel, couldn't free my jack for use!

    AAA sent a wrecker to give assistance, whom was on seen within 15 minutes on to say" dude we don't do trailer tires/flats, you will need a oversized rollback or two trucks to remove your trailer and car separately!!!!

    The Mass State Troopers had a car on seen in less than 5 minutes who recommended mobilizing the Mass Highway authority roadside/curtesy assistance and made the call on my behalf. They arrived within 10 minutes, within a couple of minutes of AAA!

    Keeping busy, I noticed the rear edge of the heavy duty diamond steel dual tire fender was actually folded in twice on itself by the spinning steel belted radial trailer tire as it began to throw the tread and steel belt!!!!!

    While neither AAA or the roadside assistance gentleman thought it was possible, I was able to unfold and recontour the fender with use of a 7 inch crescent wrench to capture and pry back the edge with the assistance of a 6 foot 4X4 wooden post I brought for loading/ unloading the car do to its low ground clearance.

    Total elapsed time from blowout tow back on the road was under 35 minutes!!!!! A little luck went a long way!!!

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    Thanks to MA state troopers, and MA roadside curtesy assistance whom refused any payment for services, AAA on the other hand (whom I pay in advance), not too helpful this time!! Next time I'll remember to call BoatUS, whom will help with trailer problems on the road!!!!!!

    The wheels on the trailer were 3 years old with very little wear/use!!!

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    Trailer was manufactured by All Pro Trailers Fla, 7000 lb rated with electric brakes on all wheels.

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    Been there done that. You got Lucky it did not do more damage. Sounds like everything went your way this time.

    Just out of curiosity when was the last time you used that trailer and more importantly checked the tire pressures?

    One thing that sticks out to me is that appears to be a 7K trailer which means 6 ply load range C 50 psi. You have cheap rubber valve stems that are rated at 55 psi. If one lets go air pressure drops, tire deflates slowly, heat builds, and tire lets go. I see it all the time in my trailer business.

    Get a 8 ton bottle jack and a 4 way lug wrench and let it live in your tow vehicle. Some 2x6 cribbing, about 4 pices, and you will be set for the next time.

    Chris
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    This trailer was last used 3 months before, which was also the last time tire pressures were measured and were appropriate. The trailer was dug out of 2 feet of snow for use, visual inspection, lights, brakes all checked but inflation pressures were not checked!!!! Trailer electronic brake gain set appropriately. Should tire inflation pressures be checked with every use ?

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    Tires: Trail America ST205 75D 15

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    Default Re: Tandom trailer blowout

    This is the exact reason I have a TPMS that monitors pressure and temp of the trailer tires. I cannot tell you how many travel trailers I see beside I5 with fenderwells and whole sides missing parts from the axles back caused by blown tires ripping things apart as they go.

    On the equipment and dump trailers I carry one spare (they are short trips only) and for the Weekend Warrior toy hauler I have two spares because as with tripple axle toy haulers alot of times if you loose one a second may not be far because of the added stress incured. In the last two years the TPMS has alerted 3 times for low air because of a bad rubber valve stem, nail in tire and blowout caused by road hazard. The temperature display also clued me in on one of the tires on the triple axle Weekend Warrior that was begining to seperate as it was running 10-15 degrees warmer then the rest and was able to remove and have checked before complete failure happened.

    Have a Chrysler Town and Country and a Jeep Commander with factory TPMS and you can see about a 1-3 pound loss of air per month depending on the season, the newer tires do not hold air as well as the old ones used to either. Strongly encourage people to look at the systems if they tow much on higher speed roads and to check pressures every week of use and before long trips.

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    Wow, I didn't know TPMS was even available on trailer wheels/tires! Is it very expensive and easy to retrofit?

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    Default Re: Tandom trailer blowout

    It was less then $700 for the receiver, repeater and 10 wheel sensors. The sensors replace your valve stem cap and attach with a special wrench so they are not stolen you do need metal valve stems to support the sensors. I think some of the sytems have come down in price and now have user replacable batteries on the sensors. You can set the tire settings to give you an alarm when pressure drops or temp goes above a set temperature.

    Here is one of the newer systems on ebay now, your local RV dealer may have them now, but not all systems do the temp I think that is needed for trailers for excessive sidewall flex or bearings going bad.
    Tire Pressure Monitoring System for Car Truck or RV TPMS 8 Sensors | eBay

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    Dang...Lady Luck sure smiled on you, your family, the Porsche, and everyone around you when that tire let go. I'm glad all ended well.
    Paraphrasing Douglas Adams - So long and thanks for all the bacon.

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    Default Re: Tandom trailer blowout

    I am a fan of steel valve stems. I fight the teenage tire guys every time. My 16' trailer had rubber valve stems. As DiamondPilot alluded to, turns out there are rubber valve stems rated for different pressures. You wouldn't think that anything below 90 psi would be different, but they are. As was my trailer (had one tire that kept coming off the bead). Go to a real tire shop (not the Discount TIre's) and get educated about them (I don't know more than what I put down here).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPMMD View Post
    This trailer was last used 3 months before, which was also the last time tire pressures were measured and were appropriate. The trailer was dug out of 2 feet of snow for use, visual inspection, lights, brakes all checked but inflation pressures were not checked!!!! Trailer electronic brake gain set appropriately. Should tire inflation pressures be checked with every use ?

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    Tires: Trail America ST205 75D 15
    Thats not good enough. Just for kicks I checked two of the load range E tires on my boat trailer this morning. It is in my barn on jack stands and was put in around November 1st. Load range E is 80 psi and in that short time with the temp change one was at 66 and another 64. Its a tri axle 18,000# trailer and all tires were set before storage.

    You absolutely need to check them once a month or more if the temp has swung. I guarantee you can not visually tell the difference between a properly inflated load range C 50 psi tire and say one at 38 psi.

    Check your other 3 and you will see they are low. Don't forget the most important tire, the spare. I once went to put on a LRG tire on a large trailer after helping out a stranded motorists and it was less than 20 psi. That is worthless. Might as well not even have a spare.

    Chris

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