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Old 11-01-2009, 09:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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ditch the resistor an old 6v coil and hit a napa and ask for a IC14SB it's about a 16$ REAL NATIVE 12v coil.. needs no resistor.. has NO internal ressitor.. it's primary is simply sufficient gauge and # of turns to be 3+ ohms.

I already have a new liquid filled 12 volt coil on the 8N?
I paid $30 for it just last last week, will that not work?

What does this mean?
it's primary is simply sufficient gauge and # of turns to be 3+ ohms.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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jump from one side of the ressitor to the other.. will she start? yes..

That's it, the resistor is bad!!
Jump from one side the risistor to the other side and it fired up.

I may still just get the NAPA coil and do away with the resistor.
I can take this new $30 coil back to Auto Zone and get the NAPA coil and have some change left over .

If I get that NAPA coil I will not need a risistor, is that correct?
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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if you already have a REAL 12v coil you need NO resistor.

if you have a coil that says for use on 12v with a resistor.. ya got a 6v coil.. I HATE companies that do that stuff.

I don't know what yer 30$ coil is.. or what application it fits. I know the IC14SB coil will work with no resistor.

coil resistance is a function of the gauge of the wire and the number of turns ( yep there are other factors.. but for simple english.. that's a good enough answer.. )

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Old 11-02-2009, 09:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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OK, I understand what you are saying now when you say a "REAL" 12 volt coil.

The new coil from NAPA even states on the side that "no external resistor is required".

Tractor is fixed and running perfect.

Thanks to all for all your help and I hope this thread helps future 8N owners.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:15 AM   #15 (permalink)
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replace the resistor.. it is 'open'. no.. a short didn't likely kill it.. nor your hot wire.. in fact.. you hot waire was an artificial short circuit taking the resistor side of the circuit out of circuit so to speak.. IE.. a bypass.. since the origin of that circuit is the bat hot anyway.. there is NO WAY for a backflow of current if it's wired correctly.

just replace it and then check it out again.. I still suspect the ignition switch.

try this.. jump from one side o fthe ressitor tot he other.. will she start? yes.. then just repalce the resistor..

no, then jump from in front of switch ( power side ) to past broken resistor... she start? yes.. then repalce switch and resistor.

no.. then keep following the wires back till you find the bad connection betweenthe battery and start switch..

Now here's some even better advice.

ditch the resistor an old 6v coil and hit a napa and ask for a IC14SB it's about a 16$ REAL NATIVE 12v coil.. needs no resistor.. has NO internal ressitor.. it's primary is simply sufficient gauge and # of turns to be 3+ ohms.

get that coil, and the new switch if needed and you should be set.

new coil costs perhaps 8-10$ more than the resistor.. but is a better deal.. old coil is not oil potted.. new coil is.. that's way better thermal disipation properties.

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Old 11-04-2009, 09:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I am just glad it helped.

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Old 12-19-2009, 01:27 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Good stuff fellows. I have a harry ferguson that I am updating with the 12v system. Knowing about the coil is great.
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