Thought I would chime in on the hobart wire. I just tossed a roll in the trash because it would not weld worth a d*#. Been using Lincoln nr-211 and nr-212 and ran out. I though why drive 40 miles to by another roll when hobart was available locally so I bought a roll. Spent half a day trying to get it to weld and finally gave up and drove to get something else and went back to welding just fine. I will say this was the hobart E71T-11 and not the fabsheild 21-b so it may be the same quality.