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02-02-2013, 08:29 AM #1Silver Member
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Shielding gases
What gas do you guy's like for steel. I like the bead appearance you get with co2 , but they mention spatter as an issue. We used co2 in school, and I can't recall spatter as an issue. Since I have been in the industry, I have always used 75/25. I use this at my shop also. Thinking about getting a bottle of co2. I have read about different mixes out there. Anyone use something different. Thanks!
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02-02-2013, 11:03 AM #2Gold Member
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Re: Shielding gases
We use CO2, cheap and readily available. Usually if I have spatter issues its because the metal isnt clean or my settings are off, dont have too much issue when all is right it seems. If anything a quick cleanup with a grinder takes it off easily and I usually pass the grinder around the workpiece anyway to deburr edges and such.
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02-02-2013, 11:11 AM #3Platinum Member
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Re: Shielding gases
I used co2 on the things that looks did not matter as much, but used mix on things that had to look good. This is for mig only, I am told co2 wont work on tig as it will ruin the tungston.
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02-04-2013, 01:28 PM #4Veteran Member
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Re: Shielding gases
I use CO2 because it's a lot less expensive and at my skill level I don't really notice much difference in appearance.
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02-04-2013, 01:55 PM #5Bronze Member
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Re: Shielding gases
Stargon gets better penetration than argonco2
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02-04-2013, 03:01 PM #6
Re: Shielding gases
I always use 75/25 gas with my MM210.
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02-04-2013, 03:12 PM #7Elite Member
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Re: Shielding gases
If you really want to turbo charge your welds, go with some C10. Or 98% argon, and 2% oxygen.
This weld was made with C10.
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02-04-2013, 03:21 PM #8
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02-04-2013, 03:33 PM #9Elite Member
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02-04-2013, 07:04 PM #10Silver Member
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Re: Shielding gases
Hey shield arc I like the spray transfer. I also like to see some character to the bead. When I was in school they taught us less heat and more technique. I personally like the mig welds that take on a Tig welded appearance. Man we could lay some pretty welds with the 3 phase units at work.
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