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    What gas do you guy's like for steel. I like the bead appearance you get with co2 , but they mention spatter as an issue. We used co2 in school, and I can't recall spatter as an issue. Since I have been in the industry, I have always used 75/25. I use this at my shop also. Thinking about getting a bottle of co2. I have read about different mixes out there. Anyone use something different. Thanks!

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    We use CO2, cheap and readily available. Usually if I have spatter issues its because the metal isnt clean or my settings are off, dont have too much issue when all is right it seems. If anything a quick cleanup with a grinder takes it off easily and I usually pass the grinder around the workpiece anyway to deburr edges and such.

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    I used co2 on the things that looks did not matter as much, but used mix on things that had to look good. This is for mig only, I am told co2 wont work on tig as it will ruin the tungston.

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    I use CO2 because it's a lot less expensive and at my skill level I don't really notice much difference in appearance.
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    Stargon gets better penetration than argonco2

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    I always use 75/25 gas with my MM210.
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    Default Re: Shielding gases

    If you really want to turbo charge your welds, go with some C10. Or 98% argon, and 2% oxygen.
    This weld was made with C10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bday View Post
    What gas do you guy's like for steel. I like the bead appearance you get with co2 , but they mention spatter as an issue. We used co2 in school, and I can't recall spatter as an issue. Since I have been in the industry, I have always used 75/25. I use this at my shop also. Thinking about getting a bottle of co2. I have read about different mixes out there. Anyone use something different. Thanks!
    What size wire and input power are you using? (110 or 220?)

    I personally use CO2 but only do occasional repairs/fabrication.

    A med size bottle lasts me years.

    SA- that weld was done on spray transfer?

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    SA- that weld was done on spray transfer?
    Yes it was!
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    Default Re: Shielding gases

    Quote Originally Posted by Shield Arc View Post
    If you really want to turbo charge your welds, go with some C10. Or 98% argon, and 2% oxygen.
    This weld was made with C10.
    Hey shield arc I like the spray transfer. I also like to see some character to the bead. When I was in school they taught us less heat and more technique. I personally like the mig welds that take on a Tig welded appearance. Man we could lay some pretty welds with the 3 phase units at work.

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