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    Quote Originally Posted by Shield Arc View Post
    That is what I'm afraid of! I run 1/8-inch 6010 around 80-amps on the V350-Pro to get the same results on the Stickweld 250 I was a little over 120-amps! Furu will probably have the exact numbers. To me that is just way to big of a difference!
    Lanse I really look forward to what you find out.
    The Lincoln V350-Pro with ESAB 10P Plus 1/8" was at 80 amps and I think AF was around +2.4 or so.

    The Stickweld with same rod (ESAB 10P Plus 1/8") was at 125 amps AF 5; thus the 45 amp difference.
    My memory of the V350-Pro Arc Force setting may be off a bit as I did not log that as we were looking at several things with the range of the AF on the machine.

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    Shield Arc
    What kind of rods does your PA 200 prefer to burn well. I got a PA200 last year and am slowly getting used to it but my suppliers aren't local and I don't make special trips to them. Any input on 6011 or 7018 would be appreciated. I am limited to Lowes of TSC locally and got some 7018 hobart and Lincoln 6011 to try. I try to do all of my practice outside and the weather is not to my liking, this old body just can't handle it well !! Thanks

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    Default Re: Update on my Stickweld 250

    My PA-200 really loves Hobart's 335A 6011, and ESAB's AtomArc 7018. My independent welding supply that I deal with all the time carries the Hobart 335A 6011, but I have to go to Air Gas for the AtomArc.

    I don't suggest buying 7018 on line. No doubt the flux will get broken off during shipping.
    Hobart 335A Mild Steel Stick Electrode - E6011 - 1/8" X 14" - 50 lb Container - S112244-031


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    Default Re: Update on my Stickweld 250

    We can get Scott to test whatever rods you wish us to test and put in the videos! Let us know what you want to see. We can get the rods needed to test from the local supply store.

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    Default Re: Update on my Stickweld 250

    I would say any of the 6010 rods Furu listed. Radnor, ESAB's 10P, 10P-Plus, Lincoln 5P-Plus.
    Does it make any sense to you that his Stickweld 250 ran the 10P-Plus at 125-amps, where the same results with my V350-Pro was at 80-amps? Even though 125-amps is well with in ESAB's parameters.
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    Default Re: Update on my Stickweld 250

    Quote Originally Posted by Shield Arc View Post
    I would say any of the 6010 rods Furu listed. Radnor, ESAB's 10P, 10P-Plus, Lincoln 5P-Plus.
    Does it make any sense to you that his Stickweld 250 ran the 10P-Plus at 125-amps, where the same results with my V350-Pro was at 80-amps? Even though 125-amps is well with in ESAB's parameters.
    Im not sure. We do not have the V350-Pro here to do a side by side, but that is something we can look into. Ill have to ask Scott or David to see why there may be differences in the machines and the settings.

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    Default Re: Update on my Stickweld 250

    Lanse said he was going to pickup some 6010 and try it on his Stickweld 250. I know all machines are different, but 45-amps?!
    On second thought we had ESAB's 10P-Plus running beautifully, so no need to give it a test drive. Only way I could get the other rods to run was by jamming them right into the puddle. Soon as I opened the arc just a little bit I lost it, and the arc died. I just get a gut feeling something is wrong with Furu's machine.


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    Cool, we can also do our testing later this week. If Furu wishes to get his unit checked out, i can get our guys on it. I think we should do some in house tests + with Lanse's tests to see if we get similar results on the settings.

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    Default Re: Update on my Stickweld 250

    What was also strange, I ran the Lincoln Excalibur 1/8-inch 7018 vertical up at 145-amps! Trust me I'm not that good! Also 155-amps for flat, normally I run flat around 125-amps.


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    Lincoln LF-72 wire feeder.
    Lincoln SG Spool gun.

    2 Lincoln LN-25.
    1937 IdealArc-300.
    Everlast PowerArc 200ST.
    3 Lincoln SA-200s.
    Vantage 400
    1800 Ellis saw.
    Hypertherm Powermax 1250, CNC table.
    PROFAX Welding Positioner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shield Arc
    Only way I could get the other rods to run was by jamming them right into the puddle. Soon as I opened the arc just a little bit I lost it, and the arc died. I just get a gut feeling something is wrong with Furu's machine.
    That's the same result I had with 6011 ( Lincoln brand), on both everlast and longevity machines. Had to burry the rod below the surface. Would like to find some place to get a small quantity of other brands to try.
    Dan H.

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