All your welding tips and advice paid off

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Teikas Dad

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I'm sure you guys got tired of me asking questions,well I finally got off my butt and did it. I've been planning, agonizing, asking advice for the past month and practicing my welding in preparation of adding hooks on the FEL bucket of my B3200.

To all of you who put up with my endless newb questions, thank you. Your input and guidance (particularly Shield Arc) was a great deal of help.

I have the Kubota quick release on the FEL so I figured to protect the electronics on the tractor I'd drop the bucket. I couldn't believe how easy the quick release worked. Roll the bucket all the way back, pull two hitch pins and pull out the two lower pins in the mount. Roll the bucket forward (at ground level) and the bucket comes right off. Took all of about 30 seconds. When I got done, putting the bucket back on was just the opposite action and again, took about 30 seconds. Kubota did a nice job with their system. The other thing about Kubota that impressed me was the paint job on the bucket. I used a flap sander on my angle grinder to get clean metal at all the areas I was going to weld. The paint was rally thick, they put a lot into making sure the bucket was protected from the elements.

I welded one hook onto a mounting plate that I bought from Ken's on the lower portion of the rear of the bucket. I also welded a shackle mount to one of Ken's plates and welded it to the underside of the bucket lip inside the bucket. Combined with a clevis shackle I can use that for a single point lift using straps for lighter items.

I got a length of 3/16X3X3 angle to set on top of the bucket lip which would then be welded to the lip and to the back of the bucket. This was my only problem of the day. When I measured everything up and bought the angle I forgot about the 3/16" thickness of the angle. When I set the angle flat on top of the lip there was a 3/16" gap under the vertical leg on the back. Fortunately I had some 3/16"X 1 1/2" flat stock in the shop. I welded the flat stock to the back of the bucket and then set the angle on it and welded the angle to flat stock. I stitch welded everything and moved from front to back and left side to right side when I made each weld in order to not overheat the bucket. One solid bead would have looked better, but I didn't want a warped bucket. I took my time and continued welding in the gaps until I had a solid bead all the way across the front edge and bottom leg of the angle. Hooks went on with no problem, 1 in the center and the other 2 centered on the FEL arms. Then I added 2 small shackle mounts that I got from Ken's outboard of the hooks, again just for lighter lifts with nylon straps. I didn't run the angle all the way across the bucket as the FEL is only rated for 900 to 1,000 lbs so I won't be lifting anything too heavy.

Primed then painted it all up with Kubota orange paint and this is how it came out.

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:thumbsup: Nice job, I think you will be able to hook and fasten anything now.
 
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Sweet Job !!! Looks Factory Built :thumbsup:

Really like the Shackle Idea , Thinking I see a addition coming to my New Holland . :)

Fred H.
 
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When are you going to get some dirt on that thing.
 
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Came out great!
 
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Man oh man that came out fantastic!:thumbsup: Who says you can't learn how to weld via the Internet?;)

Just a suggestion, I have way more experience with rigging than I do with welding. If you plan on leaving that shackle there? Take some tie wire and mouse the pin to the bail of the shackle. Run the tie wire through the hole in the pin, wrap it around the bail of the shackle, and wrap the ends of the tie wire together a few times. Anytime you are going to leave a shackle in the same place for very long periods of time. You can cut about 4 to 6 feet of small wire rope, unwrap 1-strand, place one end of this strand through the hole in the pin, and around the bail of the shackle, and form a circle with the strand. Inter wrap the strand, when done it will look like an endless cable.

The Annapolis Book of Seamanship: Third Edition, Completely Revised ... - John Rousmaniere, Mark Smith - Google Books
 
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When are you going to get some dirt on that thing.

NOOOOOOOOOO! I can't get it dirty, then I'll have to buy a new tractor!

Man oh man that came out fantastic!:thumbsup: Who says you can't learn how to weld via the Internet?;)

Just a suggestion, I have way more experience with rigging than I do with welding. If you plan on leaving that shackle there? Take some tie wire and mouse the pin to the bail of the shackle. Run the tie wire through the hole in the pin, wrap it around the bail of the shackle, and wrap the ends of the tie wire together a few times. Anytime you are going to leave a shackle in the same place for very long periods of time. You can cut about 4 to 6 feet of small wire rope, unwrap 1-strand, place one end of this strand through the hole in the pin, and around the bail of the shackle, and form a circle with the strand. Inter wrap the strand, when done it will look like an endless cable.

The Annapolis Book of Seamanship: Third Edition, Completely Revised ... - John Rousmaniere, Mark Smith - Google Books

Thanks Carl. No, the shackle is not going to stay there. I just hung it there for the photo, it's going to come off and go into the tool box with the two smaller shackles for the top of the bucket. I did just as you suggested on the hooks and held the gun at 90 degrees to the hook. Set a good bead in the bevel then went back and ran a second bead to strengthen it. I did find that using a set of cheater glasses one step up from my reading glasses and turning the helmet down to #9 helped too. I was able to see the puddle clearly and was even able to follow the spot.
 
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Nice hooks.

Someone put two hooks on my tractor's bucket, at the corners (where it is strongest). And, for the most part, this seems to be a good location. The problem is they cut the hooks so that I can't quite get a full link into them. I suppose sometime I should just cut them off and weld new ones on.
 
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Man oh man that came out fantastic!:thumbsup: Who says you can't learn how to weld via the Internet?;)

Just a suggestion, I have way more experience with rigging than I do with welding. If you plan on leaving that shackle there? Take some tie wire and mouse the pin to the bail of the shackle. Run the tie wire through the hole in the pin, wrap it around the bail of the shackle, and wrap the ends of the tie wire together a few times. Anytime you are going to leave a shackle in the same place for very long periods of time. You can cut about 4 to 6 feet of small wire rope, unwrap 1-strand, place one end of this strand through the hole in the pin, and around the bail of the shackle, and form a circle with the strand. Inter wrap the strand, when done it will look like an endless cable.

If the object of mousing the pin is just to keep it from unscrewing with vibrations, it is easier to just put a zip tie through the pin hole and around the shackle bail. Wouldn't do that for an anchor, mooring or serious overhead lifting but for general purposes it would be fine. I keep a handful of the smaller zip ties in my tractor tool box.
 
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Zip ties will certainly work. Tie wire is so common for me. My wife has a girl friend who is a rod buster, when ever she stops by I beat her out of a roll or two.:D

Here is what I was saying about using a strand of wire rope. I'm not use to working with shackles this small. The second picture is more of what I worked with.
 

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