Tips for fluxcored?

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Nigelw

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Been looking for a new stick set but can't find a good one second hand or a new one that is affordably justafiable.

So, fluxcored wire through my mig it will be.

What tips can you guys give me on this??? The work is outside and mostly heavy stuff so nothing that needs be xray quality, just a few pointers on what to expect from the first arc.
 
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I'm sure some of the welder experts will chime in shortly but for me when I'm running flux core the two things I always have is a chipping hammer and a good wire brush.

Flux doesn't put out as pretty of a weld as one with a shielding gas. Keep the work area brushed clean from the shield in flux and it can put out some solid welds. I also take the shielding nozzle off the tip of the gun since it's not needed. It does make it nice cause you can see the wire going directly to the seam that you are welding.

I'm looking forward to following this posts because I do 90% of my welding with flux just out of the convenience of using it and would like to see what other tips/tricks are out there.
 
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Self shielded flux-core? Make sure the wire you use is for single AND multi-pass welds if you're doing heavier work. E71T-GS is what a lot of the machines come with and it's only for single pass welds. E71T-11 like Hobart Fabshield 21B or Lincoln NR211MP is a better choice as it's for single and multi-pass welds. There are even better choices but a lot depends on the particular machine you have.
 
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Self shielded flux-core? Make sure the wire you use is for single AND multi-pass welds if you're doing heavier work. E71T-GS is what a lot of the machines come with and it's only for single pass welds. E71T-11 like Hobart Fabshield 21B or Lincoln NR211MP is a better choice as it's for single and multi-pass welds. There are even better choices but a lot depends on the particular machine you have.

That is good information, I was not aware of that.

I've never welded with flux core and maybe have 4 hours total welding time with mig in general. Does a flux core weld produce slag similar to stick welding? I would assume so. I have also heard mention of dual shield which if I understand correctly is running shielded wire with shielding gas. Is this correct?
 
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You still need the nozzle for self-shielding flux core. The only difference is the gas comes from the wire, rather than a tank. Drop the nozzle and you disturb formation of the shield gas. The wire is more forgiving of gas loss, but it helps to have a nozzle. That said, I've done some "long shot" wire welds using flux-core where the nozzle might as well have been in New Jersey. :)

Also, you'll probably find that dragging self-shield is going to work better for you, than push. Of course, you also should push up in a vertical weld to get better penetration. Figuring out that conflict is half the fun.

Penetration is always an issue with MIG. It's not the process - it's the person. MIG will create a fluid pool and "look nice" at energies insufficient to properly penetrate and fuse. Stick requires a certain energy just to keep melting, and that will usually be close enough to cause decent penetration. That might be why some people say MIG won't penetrate: it requires a little more attention from the welder to do it right. Also, when you get into the commercial space there is a lot of emphasis on tested procedures in MIG, for that reason.

I second the Hobart wire. It's easy to find and works well. The differences between wires is small, but nuance can count on things like overhead and vertical welding. Might as well get your hand used to running decent wire that you can find anywhere. The Hobart E71T-11 fits that bill. If you shoot between 1/8 and 1/4, suggest you start with a .30 wire. Common and versatile.

Other MIG thoughts...wire size equals melted metal volume and hence proportional to heat input. The more metal you dump, the more heat you transfer to the piece. So thicker wire or faster feed will increase heat. That can be good on thick pieces, or bad for thin sections or those prone to heat stress. Again, all of this is part of the fun.
 
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You still need the nozzle for self-shielding flux core. The only difference is the gas comes from the wire, rather than a tank. Drop the nozzle and you disturb formation of the shield gas.

I would respectfully disagree with this statement.

Flux core guns do not have gas nozzles.

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I would respectfully disagree with this statement.

Flux core guns do not have gas nozzles.

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And you can get a protective cap to go in place of the gas nozzle for self shielded wire. Helps keep spatter off of the gun, and reduces the chance of shorting to the work
 
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Does a flux core weld produce slag similar to stick welding? I would assume so. I have also heard mention of dual shield which if I understand correctly is running shielded wire with shielding gas. Is this correct?

The slag differs as it's more powdery than hard, I almost never need a chipping hammer as the wire brush takes care of it.

Dual shield is exactly as you stated, except it is a wire specifically for dual shield.
 
 
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