7016 Rods?

[Rip]

Burned a lot of 7018 and 7014 rods some 40 yrs ago....then MIG/co2 8-12 yrs ago, but now in Australia with my old shop ancient history. Have a little tractor project at hand and Santa bringing a Cigweld/ESAB 180 inverter stickwelder.

Checking on rods, find 6011, 6013, 7018 common, but not 7014....7016 seems to be what folks here use instead. My immediate application is 1/8" (3.2mm) to 1/4 (6mm) to 1/2 (12mm) new mild steel angle & flat bar and 1/8 (3mm) sheet, only flat and horizontal for now. Due to high humidity/coastal location I am shying away from 7018 although I know still work for non-critical jobs.

Any words of wisdom on this rod? How similar/different from 6013 and 7014 & 7018??

Cheers, Rip

 

[Shield Arc]

In the mid 1970s I was on a structural welding job in California. All they had was 7016, I remember it ran great. Now here on the west coast of USA on structural jobs all you see is 7018, or T-8 self shielded flux core wire because of all the seismic codes. But for home use, I wouldn't have a problem using 7016.

 

[Oldpath05]

I've used these 7016s before, I thought they were a little more spattery than the 7018 but ran ok, they still dont start and restart like the 7014 does, that's why I like the 7014 better for tacking and less spatter when welding on new construction. The 16&18 are better for more penetration and will washout imperfections better.

 

[yomax4]

I asked about 7016 at a shipyard some years back because I had never heard of it. The welders said it was supposed to be more ductile and fracture resistant than 7018. I didn't understand why but they were using a Lincoln Spec for a ballast hold. That's as far as I went with it so. I have no idea about it. Never saw it again. Not even
in stores.

 

[Rip]

Thanks....so do 7016s have same or less issue with humid environments? Not talking getting wet, just exposure to 80+% humidity most of the time. Also amp range versus 14s or 18s for same size and application?

Guess the 16s will be my substitute for the 14...and perhaps the 18, as not going to do a rod oven...although may do a "warm-dry box" at some point. May even like it better!

 

[Shield Arc]

Rip here in the North West, building bridges, container ship docks, and ferry docks. We weld in the rain all the time. Just try getting a carpenter to close the lid on a gang box so the 7018 doesn't get wet.
Here is a side bend test with wet 7018.

 

[Rip]

Thanks SA....will try to keep them dry and let it go at that. Most all my oil-patch welding was with a SA-200 ...they were state-of-the-art at the time. Colorado friend of mine does lots of pipe thawing with one also.

 

[MinnesotaDaveChalmers]

Thanks....so do 7016s have same or less issue with humid environments? Not talking getting wet, just exposure to 80+% humidity most of the time. Also amp range versus 14s or 18s for same size and application?

Guess the 16s will be my substitute for the 14...and perhaps the 18, as not going to do a rod oven...although may do a "warm-dry box" at some point. May even like it better!

Same storage requirements as 7018. Just because you can weld with wet rods doesn't mean you should

Don't let him fool you, Shield Arc has 3 rod ovens, maybe 4 :laughing:

 

[Shield Arc]

Nothing welds better, than 7018 right out of the rod oven! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Big Barn]

Nothing welds better, than 7018 right out of the rod oven!

And nothing SMELLS better than 0212 dinner rolls right out of the rod oven!