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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    I'm gonna give this one a shot CD.... https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.a...name=hydraulic Prince with PBY and float. Few adapters, a few new mount holes and should be good to go. I'll keep you informed - not at the 'top' of the priority list.

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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    cardoc. I think you will be happy with your loader when you add the return
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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    Yeah Kenmac I need to do the return first I agree thats for sure before spending another $300 or so on a new valve. Fact that should have been done already but didn't have time yet maybe this winter.

    I have the plan in my head and the PBY sleeve sitting on top of my tool box reminding me everyday.

    Thanks dtperk I will be interested in what you find out also hope it works good when you get around to it!
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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    If you already have a good valve and want float, here is a float valve you can add to the cyl's.

    Surplus Center - 20 GPM 1/2" NPT FLOAT VALVE PRINCE SS-2B1D

    Sample connection diagram.

    http://www.surpluscenter.com/Drawing/DR9-1064.pdf

    This valve has float and regen.

    http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic

    This valve has float

    Surplus Center - 2 SPOOL JOYSTICK BRAND LV22TSTKAB LOADER VALVE

    This valve has float .
    http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic
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    Git er done.

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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    Quote Originally Posted by J_J View Post
    I think this one with regen would be the best choice. The additional $50 to speed up dumping the bucket would give an immediate productivity improvement.

    Thanks for pointing those out.

  6. #26
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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    FWIW here is the spool bracket I fab'ed up and installed way back in '91. The almost thirty year old tractor has been stored outside until June, so everything is a little rusty.

    -valve-spool-jpg

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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    I decided to replace my original AICO loader valve because its curl lacks strength and drifts down. I ordered a two-stick Prince valve with Float (LVT1GB5AB1) that has the same -6 ports in the same location and mounts like the old one. $215 from Amazon. I was surprised what a maze it was to get a close match on mount, ports, gpm, relief setting, handles, etc and then the non-availability of models that seemed suitable. A local dealer suggested rebuilding the old valve - then quoted $498.

    Question: how the heck do I adapt my existing -6 in/out hoses that went to the front of the old control, to fit into the -8 ports on top of this new control? (Where the dust covers with screwdriver slots are in the photo below). Would new hose ends be simpler than adapters and elbows? Who sells adapters and elbows? A brief search indicated the cost of fittings might equal the cost of new correct hoses.

    Also - I assume its simple to remount the handles up (as listed in Prince's catalog) if they arrive mounted down like in this 'representative' photo. Curl will be on the left handle. This is non-standard I guess but is this really unusual?


    And ... Thanks to JJ for the inspiration to tackle this project.


    -p1700386r-jpg-prince-lvt1gb5ab1-jpg

  8. #28
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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    malleable iron fittings in that size range are good for 2000psi. I would guess your relief valve setting is a little over that. Would a professional use them? Probably not. Would a cheap skate like me use them? Probably would. I don't know what size ports you have but here is a sample of fittings Tractor Supply offers. 90 Degree Adapter, 1/2 in. Male Pipe x 3/8 in. Female Pipe Swivel 90 - 1818448 | Tractor Supply Company

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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    Thanks for the suggestion! I will be visiting TSC this afternoon to buy UTF and it hadn't occurred to me that they might have what I need. A SAE -8 to -6 adapter would prevent damage to the new valve (from the NPT threads) then beyond that maybe I can cobble together something inexpensively.

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Replacing FEL controls with Aftermarket - double or single stick

    I would prefer adapters rather than change hoses it may bite you someday but for now should be quicker but I am also lazy.
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