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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    I'm still leaning toward the rack being stuck or possibly plungers but since they are pumping a tiny bit I doubt that.

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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    Has that model got an electric fuel shutoff? could be the culprit.
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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    Have you been able to verify that any amount of fuel is getting into the cylinders? a slight bit of smoke from the exhaust perhaps?
    Now that you have eliminated the components from the fuel filter up, perhaps you should try back tracking from the cylinders back, being sure you have good compresion in the holes, It seems like it's lacking fuel delivery and you may be right on the spot with checking out the injectors, But I'd want to see if it could combust fuel, something besides starting fluid of course, Ive not done this myself but have been told that WD-40 can burn and is not harmful to the engine,
    In the video the engine turns over very quickly when the comp. release is open, how would you say it turns over when closed? does it choke at all? or still a consistant wind over?

    I just read back through the post and seen Car Doc and carey has already advised the same thing, got to be certain the cylinders have good compression,
    Last edited by deepNdirt; 04-19-2013 at 08:47 AM.
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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    The only thing that I can add at this point is I see a lot of hoses! What I mean is there is 3 at the fuel bowl alone and there is another round housing that's I presume either a transfer pump or another filter, is anything misrouted maybe or leaking air I dont see any clamps?

    I wish I could offer a more definitive solution but thanks for the new pics it should help someone help you I hope.

    edit: I wonder if that round housing happens to be a fuel heater it would have coolant running thru it somewhere probably the rear?
    Last edited by Car Doc; 04-19-2013 at 03:44 PM.
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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    supposedly the new wd40 is not good, the old version had a different base or lube or something and could be used but something about thenew one is not good.

    How come you cant put deisel in a squirt bottle and mist it into the intake? I do this on 2 stroke outboards all the time to diagnose starting/ignition issues, i know gas is way more flamable than deisel but i would think if you mist it then have decent compression it will light off??
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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    Quote Originally Posted by clemsonfor View Post
    supposedly the new wd40 is not good, the old version had a different base or lube or something and could be used but something about the new one is not good.
    Hmmm... yup! your correct clemsonfor, my research shows wd40 had
    25%: Liquified petroleum gas (presumably as a propellant
    Carbon dioxide is now used instead to reduce WD-40's considerable flammability)
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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    We used wd when I worked at Gm dealers in the early 80's to start 5.7 diesels and 6.2's it worked great then, those motors would fly apart pretty easy with ether also. Haven't tried it that I remember lately but that's what I understand also from this site the recipe is different oh well.

    As far as getting some oil in that engine to oil the rings up. I see the intake opening is almost ideal for some spray oil since we are on the topic. I would spray some penetrating oil in while its cranking w/comp release pulled. Now that's me and what I would do someone else may have a different idea though. It also may just fire on it so be advised of that now.
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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neat 1500 View Post
    Has that model got an electric fuel shutoff? could be the culprit.
    ^^^^This is what the problem was. There is a lever on the backside of the IP that was connected to a solenoid. I disconnected the linkage from the lever, and she fired right up. I had thought the lever was some type of governor, and didn't pursue that as a problem until you said that about the fuel shut-off. THANKS!!

    Now...on to the next problem. After it started I could hear a pretty noticeable knock. I let it idle for a couple of minutes and it completely went away. I let it idle a good 10 minutes. I then threw it in gear and drove it around the property while slowly bumping up the throttle every minute or 2. It seemed to be running pretty good. Then the knock came back when I had it at about 3/4 throttle. Black smoke poured from the exhaust and I shut it down. Popped the hood to find LOTS of oil blew out the breather.

    I thought maybe if I'm lucky the rings just needed time to re seat so I de-greased everything. Checked the oil level and found it was overfull and very watery. Not a good sign, although it didn't smell like diesel. I went ahead and drained the pan and filled it with fresh oil. Restarted it and it sounded fine. I bumped the throttle up a few rpms a little at a time with the tractor just sitting. At about half throttle, the knock came back and she was again blowing dark black out the exhaust. No more oil came out the breather. I just went ahead and shut it down. I'm guessing as others had mentioned that I may have some damage from the starting fluid. It will run fine without any knock until it gets some rpms going, then the knock starts and won't go away even at idle unless the machine sits for a few minutes before a re-start.

    edit...I've had it running for 30 minutes just a little faster than idle with a heavy dose of injector cleaner added to the fuel. It sounds perfect with no visible smoke. It is firing on all 3 cylinders. Breaking loose each of the 3 lines at the injectors bring the rpms down equally.
    Last edited by Sharkhunter; 04-19-2013 at 05:41 PM. Reason: added info

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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    Maybe it has healed itself.

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    Default Re: Problems getting Yanmar tractor running.

    yanmars have a distinct fuel know although this is a 3cyl and there not as noticeable. I think that may have been fuel knock though either from overfueling or incomplete injection?
    YM2000. MF dirt scoop,4' Jbar bushhog,boompole, LMC 12-16 disk harrow, 4' Atlas boxblade (with rippers). 1980 chevy K10,1990 ford ranger 2wd (285K miles),1997 saturn SL2 (twin cam!!),2001Toyota Higlander
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