Tire Ballast

   / Tire Ballast #51  
I've seen guys that work on split rims actually chain then around the outside thru the rim in a couple places before putting air to them.. etc..

soundguy


Me too; the chains didn't even slow the ring down when it went into orbit.:eek:


We have what used to be a nice straight-sided OSHA-approved inflation cage; so many have let loose inside it that the nice straight sides are more like balloon-shaped.:)
 
   / Tire Ballast #52  
YEP !!! Chains and cages,...been there, done that but WHAT do precautions like that tell you? There are laws against things "much" less dangerous!!

I didn't realize split-rims had been outlawed in the US of A,...but so glad to hear it!! However, as you point out,..someone always finds a way around the law.

Too bad they wouldn't ENFORCE the law by STOPPING a suspect vehicle at the border, (ALL borders) and just as for an illegal person,.. turn the vehicle away PERIOD !! ZERO tollerance! How long would it take for these companies like GM and Volvo etc to change their wheel type?

ENFORCEMENT is a very powerful weapon, however,...unfortunately money is even more than a powerful force. Try telling China they can't send those things to North America!!

Anyway, split rings are extremely dangerous and I personally would love to see them eradicated from the "world".....PERIOD!!

God Bless you guys and gals that have to work with that stuff !!

CHEERS!
. . tug
 
   / Tire Ballast #53  
Me too; the chains didn't even slow the ring down when it went into orbit.:eek:


We have what used to be a nice straight-sided OSHA-approved inflation cage; so many have let loose inside it that the nice straight sides are more like balloon-shaped.:)

I've seen those cages.. heavy walled conduit and expanded metal... Uh.. I think I'd take my chances on some gr70 chain WAY before I trusted it to chinese tubing and bad spot welds.

sounds like someone didn't secure their chains and just had an open loop rolled around the rim??

soundguy
 
   / Tire Ballast #54  
We used cages and chains when I was in the AF. No cheap China tube or cheap chains. Even witht he best money could buy when a split rim lets go anything in its path is going to get hurt. I was present when a chained and caged rim let loose in the tire shop. We had a rule that no one could be in the shop inside the block wall around the cage when the tire was being aired up, even then when the rim let go it blew a piece of chain through the cage and though the 6' high block wall and imbeded in the guy running the air. It broke mulitple bones and did massive damage to his chest. Even after that it took a GI getting killed befor the AF did away with the split rims on the smaller trucks. At the time they still used them on larger trucks but had a contract for some one to service them.
 
   / Tire Ballast #55  
I've seen those cages.. heavy walled conduit and expanded metal... Uh.. I think I'd take my chances on some gr70 chain WAY before I trusted it to chinese tubing and bad spot welds.

sounds like someone didn't secure their chains and just had an open loop rolled around the rim??

soundguy


Our old battle-scarred cage was built at the local fabrication shop out of 3-1/2-OD 3/8-wall pipe and stands on a solid 3/4-thick base; it still seems puny when one of those rims lets go.



As I already stated, the cage does nothing for you once the tire is aired up; you still have to bolt it onto the truck and get it off the parking-lot.:cool:
 
   / Tire Ballast #56  
This is only a tractor forum, (biggest and the best of course!!),...but I'm wondering if we have so many stories to tell on the subject,..... what sort of stories could places like GM and Volvo etc tell us?

Which also makes me wonder both HOW and WHERE those assembly line type companies "deal" with their wheels? Surely they all must have some sickening stories to tell, . . "IF" they were allowed to tell 'em?

AND,...they are Union shops,...so how does the Union treat this extremely dangerous situation?

Would be interesting to hear from someone who is connected to the industry that could enlighten us on the matter,...one way or another?

How do you feel driving on a multi-lane highway and look over at the transport passing you, or just sitting beside you at a traffic stop,....and nortice it has split-ring wheels, . .(that could, or might just explode at the next pothole or bump?????) Never seem to "hear" of such things, but just knowing it "could", . . . makes me want to get clear of it!

CHEERS!
. . tug
 
   / Tire Ballast #57  
This is only a tractor forum, (biggest and the best of course!!),...but I'm wondering if we have so many stories to tell on the subject,..... what sort of stories could places like GM and Volvo etc tell us?

Which also makes me wonder both HOW and WHERE those assembly line type companies "deal" with their wheels? Surely they all must have some sickening stories to tell, . . "IF" they were allowed to tell 'em?

AND,...they are Union shops,...so how does the Union treat this extremely dangerous situation?

Would be interesting to hear from someone who is connected to the industry that could enlighten us on the matter,...one way or another?

How do you feel driving on a multi-lane highway and look over at the transport passing you, or just sitting beside you at a traffic stop,....and nortice it has split-ring wheels, . .(that could, or might just explode at the next pothole or bump?????) Never seem to "hear" of such things, but just knowing it "could", . . . makes me want to get clear of it!

CHEERS!
. . tug


We had one truck leave our shop and, about half-a-mile down the road, a ring blew off and went through the wall of a house, after first scooping a trench across the front yard.

We had another make it to the next town, fifteen miles, the ring let go and took out the gas-pumps at a filling-station.

One went through the roof, not slowing down as it took out the steel rafters.

We had this one old slow fat guy working for us, comical as all get out; he couldn't hear it thunder.

UNTIL........, he rolled under a dump-truck to let down a hydraulic bottle-jack.

The rims were the worst of the lot = BUDDs = the kind where fully half of the wheel sort of connects to the other half by four tiny little nubs.

When the tire contacted the ground, the ring blew off, wrapping around the big leaf-springs right beside his head.

Being a dump-truck, there was old sticky black-top coated all over the springs and everything else under there, with millions of little rock chips embedded in this tarry mess.

The blast blew this shrapnel through his hide, making his entire head look like hamburger, blood all over.

He came crawling out and staggering around.

We mopped away the worst of the blood and picked the fragments of his eyeglasses out of his face, and doped him good with mercurichrome.

For days he complained of a constant ringing in his ears; but, when the ringing finally cleared, he could hear a pin drop a hundred feet away.

He never was hard of hearing again after that episode.


I sort of hoped that those who are always over-ruling my judgement would see the light and decide to quit messing with them; that was over twenty years ago and we are still fixing them today.:rolleyes:
 
   / Tire Ballast #58  
Just curious; does anyone use "Metal Shot" for tire ballast?:confused:

Worked in a cement plant for years. Our mills were ball mills. We used those mills to crush limestone and finish cement. The hardened liners had to be replaced every few years and were over 8 inches thick. In time,I think your filled tires would just wear the rims out. Lead is softer then steel and the rim would last longer,but steel shot would wear your rims out in a couple of years of normal use. Just my 2 cents,and I could be wrong,but metal against metal is not good.
 
   / Tire Ballast #59  
IMHO.. I think you'd have a tire full of toxic lead dust after a while..

soundguy
 
   / Tire Ballast #60  
That shot would probably wear out the inside of the valve stem in short order.
 

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