Band Dehorning

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Thanks for taking the time to post that. That is the one that has the best pictures. I have it on My Favorites.
I ordered the expanding tool and the bands as well as the spray. I'm not looking forward to it. Been talking to wifey as to how we will do it, that is how to secure him while working on the horns. I don't think that rack will fit through our stanchion, maybe that would be best to use if he will fit.
 

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   / Band Dehorning #12  
Might be worth it to just make a stanchion that he will fit into.
Or better, make a holding crate that will be adjustable and put gentle pressure on the goat from sides and rear. Allowing for hog-tying legs so he can't struggle and hurt himself. A blindfold may also make the shaving and band-setting less strenuous on the goat. Give yourselves as much help as possible, and save the goat's hide at the same time. :D

If a crate is made, just take a few days ahead and feed the goat in the crate, so he gets used to the idea of going in there. Trickery works sometimes. :)
 
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I know that is a good thing to do. I've been trying to avoid doing it using the excuse that the wood is under the snow but it would make it easier. Even with the two of us he isn't going to be easy to handle.
Wife's idea is to make a yoke and nail it across the door posts in the barn, with his front feet slightly up so he can't get in a power position while we work.
 
   / Band Dehorning #17  
OK....if you must do this, then you need to be prepared, completely.
I run cattle and occasionally need to restrain a several hundred lb calf.

Simplest, least expensive solution is to jam it into a very tight space....think parallel or almost parallel panels that can be squeezed together to control body movements side to side. Slide pipe/boards behind animal so it cannot back up. Helps if side panels are made of cattle panels which have squares every 5 inches or so so you have many locations to choose from.

In your case, the animal is sufficiently gentle so you can get it into a confined space and control it. I'd get it into the parallel chute, close off the front (tie panels together, block it in all the way to the front of the chute with boards behind, drop a rope over the horns to assist in head control by wrapping the rope around something and tightening it (this avoids the hand rope burns from trying to just hold on to the rope).

Now, the SECRET...

Use a nose tong to fully control the head. Put tongs on the nose and bend head back over the shoulder and maintain tension on it.

Animal can't go forward because chute front is closed off.

Animal can't use front feet to hit you because you are shielded by the chute sides. Goats use their front feet as weapons.

Animal can't go back because it is blocked behind the rear legs.

Head can't move because it is bent back over the shoulder and in tension.
You have a back up system because rope is attached to the horns.

Now, do your business.

I have personally used this method to dehorn calves and seen a 2000 lb bull restrained this way as well.

As always when working with animals, start off working as calmly as possible to get the animal into position before starting restraint, then close off front escape route and rear escape route at almost same time. rope horns, then put tongs into nose and restrain head. Feeding the animal for several days in the planned restraint area before performing the operation is a good idea... allows you to fully plan your actions without alarming the animal.

Good luck.... if you don't know what nose tongs are, let me know....after a rope they are the next least expensive, most effective restraint method available.....I don't recommend their constant use, but for rare use to safely restrain an animal for serious work, they cannot be beat.

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   / Band Dehorning #19  
According to my wife the Goat MOMMA, DOC, and local person to call on short of the vet:

Its CRUEL, INHUMANE, Painful, prone to infection, takes 6 weeks, like amputating a limb with a tourniquet, totally frowned upon by goat raiser associations, and if you must do it, do it at birth or shortly after by using the dis-budder................

When one of ours happens to break a horn it is taken to the slaughter house immediately. Just my thoughts.....do as you need to do.........God bless......Dennis
 
   / Band Dehorning #20  
According to my wife the Goat MOMMA, DOC, and local person to call on short of the vet:

Its CRUEL, INHUMANE, Painful, prone to infection, takes 6 weeks, like amputating a limb with a tourniquet, totally frowned upon by goat raiser associations, and if you must do it, do it at birth or shortly after by using the dis-budder................

When one of ours happens to break a horn it is taken to the slaughter house immediately. Just my thoughts.....do as you need to do.........God bless......Dennis

So apparently killing the animal outright is less cruel and inhumane than dehorning? For the animal or owner?
The owner of this buck didn't have the option of dehorning at birth, as someone else owned it at that time and made a different choice.
 

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