EdenPure Heater

[bp fick]

A quality, oil filled radiator type heater, with tip over protection and better controls = $59 any day of the week, almost anywhere.

The cheaper versions even less. $39.

Save the rest for the electric bill.

 

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...They are all equally efficent....

never owned an Edenpure so I can't comment on that but as far as efficiency goes...it seems like it would depend on the size and configuration of the space being heated... static heaters like oil radiators will not warm a larger space as efficiently as a heater that has some sort of fan...

Curious...does Edenpure claim to use any type of advanced technology?

Not to mix apples with oranges (and bring up another overpriced item)...but look (I mean listen to) what Bose can do with broadcast radio signals and their "Wave Radio"

 

[LD1]

Curious...does Edenpure claim to use any type of advanced technology?

NOPE!

Btu output is DIRECTLY related to Watt input period.

1 watt = 3.41BTU

So a 1500watt heater will give out 5114 BTU per hour. It doesnt matter what type of electric heater it is. The only exception is a heat pump. Because they dont "create" heat. They only move it. And they are about 3x's more efficent (depending on ambient outside temps of course). So at 3x's more efficent, a heatpump gives out 15,000BTU for every 1500 watts consumed.

And to further break it down, Propane is about 91,000BTU per gallon. With aberage prices at about $2.00 per gallon, you are getting roughly 40,500 BTU for every dollar.

With electric @ about 10cents per Kwh, electric is about 34,000BTU per dollar spent. And a heatpump at 3x's that you can get over 100,000 BTU for every dollar spent. That is why heatpumps, especially geothermals are so popular (at least in my area). Because they are far more efficent than any alternative. Unless you count burning wood and OWB's. But some people just dont have the capibility or time to cut 10+ cords of wood a year.

 

[Marveltone]

My Mother-in-Law had an EdenPure she used in a col end of her house. The main heat was electric baseboard (off-peak) throughout the house and an LP fireplace in the opposite end of the over-priced heat lamp. I tried to convince her it was costing her more money than it was worth, but she said she rather liked it. One of her brothers always gushed about the contraption and longed for the day he buys one or more of them so he could save money also. I gave up. :smiley_aafz:

She passed away last spring. We inherited the house with the farm. I gave her brother the EdenPure and installed a 35,000 BTU wall heater to take its place in the former cool end of the house.:cool2:

Now don't even get me started on Bose! :thumbdown:

Joe

 

[Brad_Blazer]

NOPE!

Btu output is DIRECTLY related to Watt input period.

1 watt = 3.41BTU

So a 1500watt heater will give out 5114 BTU per hour. It doesnt matter what type of electric heater it is. The only exception is a heat pump. Because they dont "create" heat. They only move it. And they are about 3x's more efficent (depending on ambient outside temps of course). So at 3x's more efficent, a heatpump gives out 15,000BTU for every 1500 watts consumed.

And to further break it down, Propane is about 91,000BTU per gallon. With aberage prices at about $2.00 per gallon, you are getting roughly 40,500 BTU for every dollar.

With electric @ about 10cents per Kwh, electric is about 34,000BTU per dollar spent. And a heatpump at 3x's that you can get over 100,000 BTU for every dollar spent. That is why heatpumps, especially geothermals are so popular (at least in my area). Because they are far more efficent than any alternative. Unless you count burning wood and OWB's. But some people just dont have the capibility or time to cut 10+ cords of wood a year.

Nice post. I think you meant 1 Watt = 3.41 BTU/hr or 1KW*hr = 3412BTU

I got one of these for $15 when it was on sale for $19.99 and I had a $5 off coupon. On the low 400W setting it keeps me toasty sitting at the computer.
Optimus Infrared Quartz Radiant Heater, Model# H-5210 | Electric Heaters | Northern Tool + Equipment

One might make an argument that radiant heat is more effective than heating the air.

 

[LD1]

Nice post. I think you meant 1 Watt = 3.41 BTU/hr or 1KW*hr = 3412BTU

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That depends on how you look at it. But technically it would be

1 watt/hour = 1 btu/hr. I just left out the hour on both. Because if you consume 1 watt per minute, that would be 3.41 btu per minute NOT hour.

It is just that everyone automatically assumes watts are per hour, which usually they are. Just a technicality really.

 

[Brad_Blazer]

A Watt is power (Joule/sec). A BTU is energy (1BTU will raise the temperature of 1lbm water by 1F)

 

[LD1]

A Watt is power (Joule/sec). A BTU is energy (1BTU will raise the temperature of 1lbm water by 1F)

A little more handy formula when dealing with HVAC is

1BTU is the energy required to raise 55 cu ft of air 1 Degree.

So it substitutes 55 cu ft of air of the 1lb of water.

Makes it easier since we can measure temps at the vents of out HVAC system. As long as you know how many CFM the blower is.

 

[EE_Bota]

A little more handy formula when dealing with HVAC is

1BTU is the energy required to raise 55 cu ft of air 1 Degree.

So it substitutes 55 cu ft of air of the 1lb of water.

Makes it easier since we can measure temps at the vents of out HVAC system. As long as you know how many CFM the blower is.

A ton is 12000 BTU. I had trouble finding that information years ago, before the internet. I called around all over the place, and noone seemed to know.

It came in handy one day, when during a chiller failure, the big boss suggested I fill the chiller pit with ice. I said I didn't think that would help much. He thought I was stalling. He began to understand my stalling when I told him it would take 400 tons of ice a day. He decided to get out of the way, and let me fix the chiller.

In a related event, at a different factory, they were seeking an extra cooling punch for one of the cooling conveyors. Against the advice of engineering, production went and procured blocks of dry ice and tossed them in the cooling conveyor bath.

The entire factory looked like the set of a horror movie, with thick fog everywhere. Debris not seen in years began to boil up in the bath, clogging all the pumps and nozzles.

Ahhh...fun times.

 

[JDgreen227]

A local newspaper column writer posted something about the Edenpure heaters in his blog, I made a comment in his blog about the heaters that basically said:


"Instead of wasting money on one of these overpriced ripoffs, go to a local Wally World, or, cheaper yet, a local thrift store, and buy a 4-slice toaster. Then lock the lowering levers down with copper wire, and plug the toaster in. You now have a 1500 watt electric space heater for a fraction of the cost of an Edenpure..."

DISCLAIMER: Any risk you assume by following my advice is just that, YOUR RISK.