Becarefull if buying anything with perkins 1104-44t engine

   / Becarefull if buying anything with perkins 1104-44t engine
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   / Becarefull if buying anything with perkins 1104-44t engine #22  
It's just that you and another dude come over here talking about how the sky is falling. Perkins are **** good engines, just in certain mulching application such as ASV, I've heard of 20 or so early failures. Perkins is leaving these people to pay for machines that are under warrenty that they can't use until they spend alot of $$$$$ to fix. All these seem to be in ASV mulchers. :cool:
Maybe the fact that ASV recommends in their operators manual oil changes every [B]500[/B] hours has something to do with it.
i drop the oil every 100 hrs,i think thats long enough..
500 hrs is insane,no wonder they blow up.
 
   / Becarefull if buying anything with perkins 1104-44t engine #23  
I keep my equipment maintained to the extreame. We change oil every 150 hours, change air filters weekly, blow out air filters twice daily and blow the radiator out every 4 hours of operation. My machine is also equipped with a clean fix revesable fan. I am the operator!! and it was not anything we did.It is a defective engine that perkins and asv are aware of and are hoping that the volume of engines of this kind that they produce will mask the problems they are having with a certain batch of bad ones. All well and good unless you are trying to make a living and feed your family using one of the bad ones then it "sucks".

I believe it's a big mistake to blow out air filters at any time.On our RC100 the precleaner failed 3mths from new and replaced it with a better type of cyclonic precleaner and then only changed the filters when needed.Also check out the Donaldson website for more info
 
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500 hours is normal on ag equipment. From everything I've read its an ASV problem not a Perkins problem. My MF has an 1104T in it with 4300 hours on it, had a recall for timing gears when new but good besides that.

Maybe the fact that ASV recommends in their operators manual oil changes every [B]500[/B] hours has something to do with it.
i drop the oil every 100 hrs,i think thats long enough..
500 hrs is insane,no wonder they blow up.
 
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So I haven't seen it mentioned. Is it the Chinese version made after Cat severed their partnership that are being denied warrantee? I can understand that if that is the case. If not, what is the reason given for not standing behind them?

Kim
 
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500 hours is normal on ag equipment. From everything I've read its an ASV problem not a Perkins problem. My MF has an 1104T in it with 4300 hours on it, had a recall for timing gears when new but good besides that.
500 hrs on the same oil in a diesel is way to much period.

How can it be an AVS problem when perkins build the **** engine.?
what i've heard is most times the oil pickup tube cracks or breaks off on the failed ones.
 
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So I haven't seen it mentioned. Is it the Chinese version made after Cat severed their partnership that are being denied warrantee? I can understand that if that is the case. If not, what is the reason given for not standing behind them?

Kim
Cat owns Perkins
 
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I think most manufacturers would disagree, almost all CNH equipment intervals is up to 500 hours now. I know Kubota shows something like 50 hrs on their small stuff but many farms in busy season would need to change oil twice a week with a drain interval like that.

I have not heard any complaints about, well, really any perkins engines except in the forestry mulchers. This is maybe the 5th one in the last couple of years I've read about. Given there are about oh what maybe 500 other perkins powered equipment built for each perkin powered mulcher, its pretty safe to say something in the forestry mulcher is causing short engine life span. (Note I'm basing this on having seen hundreds even thousands of 4 cyl turbo perkins motors, but I've only seen a handful of mulchers at trade shows. Low production numbers)

500 hrs on the same oil in a diesel is way to much period.

How can it be an AVS problem when perkins build the **** engine.?
what i've heard is most times the oil pickup tube cracks or breaks off on the failed ones.
 
   / Becarefull if buying anything with perkins 1104-44t engine #29  
Cat owns Perkins

I know that. And Cat went into partnership with a Chinese company to manufacture Perkins engines. After that partnership was severed by Cat, the Chinese continued the manufacturing without Cat permission. In other words. A pirated engine with inferior parts, sold as a genuine Perkins engines. All this is in a link in a previous post. I was asking if these might be the pirated engines that are being denied warrantee by Perkins.

Kim
 
   / Becarefull if buying anything with perkins 1104-44t engine #30  
I know that. And Cat went into partnership with a Chinese company to manufacture Perkins engines. After that partnership was severed by Cat, the Chinese continued the manufacturing without Cat permission. In other words. A pirated engine with inferior parts, sold as a genuine Perkins engines. All this is in a link in a previous post. I was asking if these might be the pirated engines that are being denied warrantee by Perkins.

Kim
I doubt very much that ASV would've bought and installed them.
 

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