3320 vs L3800

[LD1]

Actually I believe it is very much price related, to add the option of a hoe 4 point mounting plates would need to be designed to fit that specific tractor

That cost for the mounting plate would be recouped with the sale of the BH, but in NO way should add cost to a tractor w/o the hoe.

My tractor WAS designed for use with a factory hoe. And I did NOT purchase it. So I would hope that the price I paid wasnt higher because kubota designed a BH to fit it that I did NOT purchase:confused2:

And I still cant get over the fact of how light the tractor is. I personally wouldnt do it. ESPECIALLY if deere wont honor a warrenty if you do. Not to mention, the the 303x series only has a rear axle weight rating of a measly 2600 lbs. With a hoe and loader on, I am sure you will go way over that, and that right there is enough for deere to void a warrenty. But, to each his own:confused2: This is only my opinion and what I would do. When spending $25k+, I wouldnt chance it.

 

[JDGreenGrass]

That cost for the mounting plate would be recouped with the sale of the BH, but in NO way should add cost to a tractor w/o the hoe.

My tractor WAS designed for use with a factory hoe. And I did NOT purchase it. So I would hope that the price I paid wasnt higher because kubota designed a BH to fit it that I did NOT purchase:confused2:

And I still cant get over the fact of how light the tractor is. I personally wouldnt do it. ESPECIALLY if deere wont honor a warrenty if you do. Not to mention, the the 303x series only has a rear axle weight rating of a measly 2600 lbs. With a hoe and loader on, I am sure you will go way over that, and that right there is enough for deere to void a warrenty. But, to each his own:confused2: This is only my opinion and what I would do. When spending $25k+, I wouldnt chance it.

I think you are a bit overboard on some numbers here...

An axle rated for #2600 isn't measley. THAT is a lot of weight. I can't think of anything going on the back of my tractor that weighs that much.??

$25,000.??? These tractors by Deere that we are talking about go for less than $20,000.

 

[LD1]

I think you are a bit overboard on some numbers here...

An axle rated for #2600 isn't measley. THAT is a lot of weight. I can't think of anything going on the back of my tractor that weighs that much.??

$25,000.??? These tractors by Deere that we are talking about go for less than $20,000.

The $25K+ that I was refering to would be a TOTAL TLB package. And even a 3032 with aftermarket hoe would top that.

And yes, 2600lbs IS measly IMO for a 32HP CUT that someone is considering putting a BH on.

You may not have anything that heavy, but you also have to figure that about 1000lbs of the tractors OWN weight is on the rear also. So now you are only down to an additional 1600lb capacity. And BH's arent light, not to mention the weight transfer involved since the mass hangs REARWARD of the axle:confused2:

And just to put it in perspective, The 3320 that deere DOES offer with a hoe, has a rear axle rating of DOUBLE the 3032:confused2: Maybe a clue right there????

But do whatever you want. You could put a 250HP shot of nitrous on your truck with a stock motor too. What do you think will happen? Do you think the dealer is going to honor a warrenty just because someone "made" a kit that "fit".

 

[ctlguy]

That cost for the mounting plate would be recouped with the sale of the BH, but in NO way should add cost to a tractor w/o the hoe.

My tractor WAS designed for use with a factory hoe. And I did NOT purchase it. So I would hope that the price I paid wasnt higher because kubota designed a BH to fit it that I did NOT purchase:confused2:

And I still cant get over the fact of how light the tractor is. I personally wouldnt do it. ESPECIALLY if deere wont honor a warrenty if you do. Not to mention, the the 303x series only has a rear axle weight rating of a measly 2600 lbs. With a hoe and loader on, I am sure you will go way over that, and that right there is enough for deere to void a warrenty. But, to each his own:confused2: This is only my opinion and what I would do. When spending $25k+, I wouldnt chance it.

You would hope you did not pay more but in reality you probably did. Premium tractors (regardless of color). That have oem premium att capability (like backhoes) DO cost more. Is it strictly related to the hoe? Probably not there will upgraded features across the board. If you are going to make a premium unit you make a premium unit if you are making a price fighter unit then the same is applied. The lack of a power beyond I am sure in terms of design/build of a tractor does reduce costs. Again is this strcily related to the hoe? There are numerous downgrades on these units accross the board to get them at the price point they are at. I guess if there where a whole lot of instances where you knew of a mfg voiding warranty for hoe install I would be incined to buy it but the reality is there is a whole lot of hoes on a whole lot of lighter tractors. Can't think of when I heard/saw a cut tractor broke in half, final drive failure, etc because of one of these dinky little hoes. As a side note axle weight rating on a 2305 was rated at a measly #1,477 and lots of hoes on those tractors, Keep in mind these ratings are an "in operation" spec. If you are digging without stabilizers down, loader down, you are asking for trouble regardless of the axle capacity. Weight of 260 hoe (less mounting plates) #610, weight of 375 with mounting plates #1,035. But if you compare those weights to the #1,477 capacity versus the #2,600 capacity I can't see any issues. If the 2305 with a #1,477 capacity can handle a #600 hoe why cant a E series with #2,600 capacity handle a #1,000 hoe?

 

[LD1]

If the 2305 with a #1,477 capacity can handle a #600 hoe why cant a E series with #2,600 capacity handle a #1,000 hoe?

Why dont you ask a JD engineer that.

The kubota 3400 is NOT a deluxe model. It is their ECONOMY model that JD created the 3032 and 3038 to compete with. And kubota offers a hoe, JD does not.

I certainally believe there is more than just price as a reason they dont offer it.

I am done with this. I have said my peice and made my opinion known.

But either way, IF JD doesnt warrent it if you go aftermarket for a hoe, I wouldnt do it. Simple as that. And if you do and break something, you have no one to blame but yourself:confused2:

 

[ctlguy]

Why dont you ask a JD engineer that.

I am done with this. I have said my peice and made my opinion known.
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Aww, c'mon now. You are taking all of the fun out of creative discussion in a forum format. Disagreements are incredibly common on any forum and looking at both sides of the coin is IMO where most of the fun/benefit is. Best wishes.

 

[LD1]

Aww, c'mon now. You are taking all of the fun out of creative discussion in a forum format. Disagreements are incredibly common on any forum and looking at both sides of the coin is IMO where most of the fun/benefit is. Best wishes.

You are right. But at this point, I think we are just beating a dead horse. I have said all I care to about the matter. There is no right or wrong answer here. An owner of a 3032 can do as they wish, I just feel that if BH use is a big part of wanting a tractor, then buy one that the MFG will put one on, not one they dont.

You can probabally get an aftermarket Gooseneck hitch for a S-10 or ranger,....you get the idea