electrical/ pressure switch question

[scesnick]

I have terrible well water , full of iron. but, I also have a creek that originates on my property so, I put a 220v submersible pump into the creek, then all the required filters on it and now i have wonderful water.

I obviously ran 220v wire ( 8/2 I believe it was) 500ft to my creek for the pump. I also have a very nice large pond that we use for hanging out and swimming in the summer. I would like to have electric down by the pond. So, I put a breaker box in halfway down my field to split off the 220v for the pump. I had an electrician wire it up so now I have a 220v breaker and a 120v breaker in the breaker box. I have yet to run the 120v wire to the pond.

But then I realized that the only time I will get power to my 120v outlet by the pond will be when the pressure switch is closed and calliing for water to my house.
how can I solve this problem without running ery expensive wire 500ft again? Maybe put the pressure switch after the filed breaker box somehow????/

 

[grsthegreat]

I have terrible well water , full of iron. but, I also have a creek that originates on my property so, I put a 220v submersible pump into the creek, then all the required filters on it and now i have wonderful water.

I obviously ran 220v wire ( 8/2 I believe it was) 500ft to my creek for the pump. I also have a very nice large pond that we use for hanging out and swimming in the summer. I would like to have electric down by the pond. So, I put a breaker box in halfway down my field to split off the 220v for the pump. I had an electrician wire it up so now I have a 220v breaker and a 120v breaker in the breaker box. I have yet to run the 120v wire to the pond.

But then I realized that the only time I will get power to my 120v outlet by the pond will be when the pressure switch is closed and calliing for water to my house.
how can I solve this problem without running ery expensive wire 500ft again? Maybe put the pressure switch after the filed breaker box somehow????/

If i understand the question correctly, your pressure switch is located in your house and if its like the kind i am use to, when its open (not asking for water pump operation) both sides of the 220 circuit are open and there is NO POWER going down to the pump.

Your saying the electrician cut both legs of the wire going down to the pump and added a 220 breaker??? how did he do this without a neutral wire ?? Most well pump feed wires for a lake pump would just have 2 hots and a ground wire only.

When the pressure switch shuts off you will have NO power, and i really don't know how to solve it. You cant simply move the pressure switch down to the panel as you would need the control wires from the pressure tank to go all the way down there also. So no matter what you will need to bury more wire.

The drawing shows only 1 wire being cut to fed the 220 breaker and this doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Yeah, you need to move your pressure tank and switch down by the creek. You may want to put the filters down there too, but they are more likely to get changed if you keep them at the house. It will mean building a small pump house to hold the tank and pressure switch, and some re-plumbing. You may decide to spring for the wire after all.

 

[nunyabinis]

You'll need to put the cutoff switch down near the pump that's in the creek. If you use a Cycle Stop Valve you will most likely not have to move your tank down there as well. However, if you do have to move the tank, you can use a VERY small water tank with a Cycle Stop Valve.


Cycle Stop Valve


I had some plumbing problems that I won't go into but I found out about the Cycle Stop Valve and solved them all. I've been using one for about a year and it's like a little miracle device. The website I linked to contains all the info you could ever want regarding what it is and how it works. I got mine off eBay for about $70.




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[Western]

I'm thinking a small insulated "pump house" built near the creek, then move the pressure switch ,tank ect tra down there. Still cost you, but makes better sense to me. You may be able to use native rock and mortar for the structure to save $$ then add a roof and door. At least then your 220 will be "hot" on the whole run and you could also tap into it in the pump house for a light.

 

[scesnick]

Not sure how my electrician wired it really. i just drew the pic.

Moving the tank and/or anything that holds water above ground outside is not an option. it gets well below zero at my place. Looks like I am running more wire !

 

[scesnick]

I'm thinking a small insulated "pump house" built near the creek, then move the pressure switch ,tank ect tra down there. Still cost you, but makes better sense to me. You may be able to use native rock and mortar for the structure to save $$ then add a roof and door. At least then your 220 will be "hot" on the whole run and you could also tap into it in the pump house for a light.

Good suggestion but would probably be cheaper to just run more wire to the pond.

 

[Western]

Good suggestion but would probably be cheaper to just run more wire to the pond.

If you have rock, it would probably be close $$ wise since it would have to be big, the wire idea would be faster and easier. You have what 200-250' run to the box now?

The rock "pump house" would be way "cooler" though.

 

[Willl]

Couldn't you move 'just' the pressure switch to the halfway breaker box area ?

 

[grsthegreat]

Couldn't you move 'just' the pressure switch to the halfway breaker box area ?

then there would be no wiring to control the pressure switch from the pressure tank. this idea wouldnt help