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Calcium CL is very caustic but I have had it in my tires for 25 years with no ill effects.
Mx5100 let me down!
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Calcium CL is very caustic but I have had it in my tires for 25 years with no ill effects.
StanR
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I have a 5100.... dealer said all of the 5100's they sold got the tires filled.
I have moved heavy round bales with nothing on the back... with no issues. But I did not raise my bucket to the top.
I have moved heavy round bales with nothing on the back... with no issues. But I did not raise my bucket to the top.
David_Kb7uns
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Have L3130 with LA723 loader and with backhoe mounted and Rimguard in the R1 tires. I can still get at least one of the rear wheels off the ground when lifting logs and rocks with the grapples. The more counterweight the better.
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Glad you didn't get hurt. When I was shopping for a machine a year ago I was really wanting a Mx5100 because of the Kubota reputation, but couldn't get past the lack of weight and extra$$$$$ . As others have mentioned, spend the money and get the rears loaded, it really does make a difference.
LD1
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ALL tractors are light in the rear without sufficient ballast and lifting a large load at max height:confused2: NOT just kubota.
A tiller isnt really good ballast for a tractor that size. Guessing ~600lbs or so....plus the steel you added, and not very far back to bood. A good heavy 7' bushhog would have made quite a difference as well as loaded tires.
And not sure what your terrain was like, but if you could have positioned the load up-hill of the tractor, and come in from a downhill side (slight slope), that helps a lot. Lift and have trailer drive away:thumbsup:
1000lbs should have been nothing. Maybe it was under-estimated....maybe not. But my MUCH smaller tractor has lifted and moved my ~1400-1500lbs...500 gallon propane tank, unloaded a 1100lb bushhog 306 off the trailer, and ocassionally lift my 700lb rear blade and set it over the side and into the bed of a truck.
I am sure with proper ballast, you will be very happy with the kubota:thumbsup:
A tiller isnt really good ballast for a tractor that size. Guessing ~600lbs or so....plus the steel you added, and not very far back to bood. A good heavy 7' bushhog would have made quite a difference as well as loaded tires.
And not sure what your terrain was like, but if you could have positioned the load up-hill of the tractor, and come in from a downhill side (slight slope), that helps a lot. Lift and have trailer drive away:thumbsup:
1000lbs should have been nothing. Maybe it was under-estimated....maybe not. But my MUCH smaller tractor has lifted and moved my ~1400-1500lbs...500 gallon propane tank, unloaded a 1100lb bushhog 306 off the trailer, and ocassionally lift my 700lb rear blade and set it over the side and into the bed of a truck.
I am sure with proper ballast, you will be very happy with the kubota:thumbsup:
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The 5100 didn't let you down, it simply wasn't set up right for the job at hand. There is an old saying about blaming your tools and most of us have probably done this.
We have owned/own different makes and find they all benefit from wheel weights or fluid and heavy ballast on the 3PH, I think the manual on my 5030 recommends 1000 pounds which is about what my cutter weighs.
We have used them with just the filled tires, but I don't recommend it as performance and safety suffers at least that's been my experience.
We have owned/own different makes and find they all benefit from wheel weights or fluid and heavy ballast on the 3PH, I think the manual on my 5030 recommends 1000 pounds which is about what my cutter weighs.
We have used them with just the filled tires, but I don't recommend it as performance and safety suffers at least that's been my experience.
Thanks everyone for your understanding and help. I am now thinking that the stove was probably more then 1000 lbs. Maybe closer to 1500 lbs. And the weight wasn't evenly distribted. I wasn't on pavement and the ground was even but a little soft. I will definately get the tires filled. And maybe even a serious ballast box.
Another thing I didn't mention but kind of surprised me. As I was travelling up the road I came to a small incline that got a little steeper at the last 300 feet. I was in medium range and the tractor almost stalled out. I had to stop and put it in low range to get up this hill. First I thought I left the brake on but it wasn't on. I was only carrying a empty bucket and a tiller. My L3700 would have gone up that hill in medium range and maybe even in high range. I am starting to wonder if I got a Turbo or a turdo. Actually this disappoints me more then the failed lift. I am adding a hoe in two weeks. With that hoe on the back this thing will barely pull it's own weight in medium range. High range on the MX5100 is almost useless. Between the bouncing and the high pitch whining. I have only use high range going down hill with the loader off.
Maybe I'm asking to much, but I was expecting this thing to do a little more in mid range.
CJ
Another thing I didn't mention but kind of surprised me. As I was travelling up the road I came to a small incline that got a little steeper at the last 300 feet. I was in medium range and the tractor almost stalled out. I had to stop and put it in low range to get up this hill. First I thought I left the brake on but it wasn't on. I was only carrying a empty bucket and a tiller. My L3700 would have gone up that hill in medium range and maybe even in high range. I am starting to wonder if I got a Turbo or a turdo. Actually this disappoints me more then the failed lift. I am adding a hoe in two weeks. With that hoe on the back this thing will barely pull it's own weight in medium range. High range on the MX5100 is almost useless. Between the bouncing and the high pitch whining. I have only use high range going down hill with the loader off.
Maybe I'm asking to much, but I was expecting this thing to do a little more in mid range.
CJ
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You may need to have it checked out as I have a 5030, pretty close in power, even a little less and run mine in high range regularly with loaded tires, 1000+ cutter and full bucket. I can go up a fairly good incline in medium.
bigbull338 and others have the 5100 and can speak specifically, but that sounds like pretty weak performance.
Kyle241
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I agree with TripleR. Your experience going up the hill sounds like there may be something going on there. I have the MX5100 with the BH92 and it has zero troubles going uphill in medium.
As for your lift, others have chimed in and getting added weight on the back will help a lot. A 300lb tiller is not enough by itself. My tires are not filled by the BH stays on all the time and I find the tractor behaves a lot better.
As for your lift, others have chimed in and getting added weight on the back will help a lot. A 300lb tiller is not enough by itself. My tires are not filled by the BH stays on all the time and I find the tractor behaves a lot better.
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Two mistakes, I think:
1) not near enough ballast on the 3PH for the weight on the loader.
2) lifting from one hook welded in the middle of the bucket (good way to bend the upper flange of the bucket).
You may not have had enough air pressure in the front tires either...you'll want to up the pressure to the maximum for a heavy load like the furnace. From personnel experience, I can write that inadequate pressure in the fronts (but not necessarily too low for other work) can make the tractor feel ready unstable.
As the other folks wrote...fill those rear tires too.
BTW, as far as nearing stalling the tractor going up that mild slope...I'm assuming you have HST and you probably had the forward pedal mashed flat...not what you want to do with HST.
1) not near enough ballast on the 3PH for the weight on the loader.
2) lifting from one hook welded in the middle of the bucket (good way to bend the upper flange of the bucket).
You may not have had enough air pressure in the front tires either...you'll want to up the pressure to the maximum for a heavy load like the furnace. From personnel experience, I can write that inadequate pressure in the fronts (but not necessarily too low for other work) can make the tractor feel ready unstable.
As the other folks wrote...fill those rear tires too.
BTW, as far as nearing stalling the tractor going up that mild slope...I'm assuming you have HST and you probably had the forward pedal mashed flat...not what you want to do with HST.