Want a new laptop but do I want Windows 8?

[Fordman1981]

Arguing is good, that's one important aspect of Internet fora. I would say that "getting something done" to many Mac users amounts to pushing one button and seeing what the computer provides for you. If what you are looking for doesn't appear, you're stuck. :laughing: My advice to the OP is to stay current, don't live in the past. Computer technology waits for no one. My brother is not provided the tools to solve computer issues, either by his hardware or software and by virtue of those, his experience. Apple computers are not and never have been free from glitches. I'm typing this on my iPad, it has shortcomings just like my Kindle Fire HD and everything else. The latest IOS 7 just rendered all my subscribed magazines useless. My first machine was a TRS-80. I have managed computer service centers and have worked as an engineer at Intel for twelve years so the number of machines that have been in my care vastly outnumber what most individuals have experienced, I suspect. I am not using that exposure to bolster my case, however. I'm just using simple logic and observation.

For someone that is supposed to be an engineer you have some very poor observation skills and come to poor conclusions.

1. You magazine subscriptions that were rendered useless. It is not up to apple to update someone's app they need to update it to work with iOS 7.

2. I don't believe for one second that you see so many instances where a Mac can't do something. I have been using macs for over 5 years and I have never ran into an issue I can't resolve. It make take a program or a setting change but I would say their is very very few things a PC can do a Mac can't.

3. From a separate post of yours name some stuff Mac has that PC don't. How about the track pad on a Mac it is so much more advanced than any mouse pad in any PC laptop I've seen.

4. Quit jumping on people for just making a suggestion of looking at the Mac line up.

5. Everyone is entitled an opinion and for me and a few others in this thread we have had better service out if our macs. To us they seem more stable and with less issues. You may have had different experience with Mac and that's fine but don't tell us we are wrong and apparently have issues we don't know about and never see.

6. You are clearly a blind windows follower that doesn't even try to see what other offerings are out there to say Mac users push one button and just waits to see what happens and if what they want doesn't happen they give up is one of the dumbest statement I have ever heard.

7. I have developed apps for iOS and for android to me iOS is much much easier to develop for.

8. MS has lost touch with people and what they want they think they are big enough now to tell people what they want or else. The thing I like about apple is they continue to innovate and offer new features but keep the main day to day operation close to the same so users don't feel overwhelmed like windows has done with windows 8. If you want to use the new features you can but if you don't you can operate just as you always have.

9. Enjoy your windows cool aid because I'm sure none of this has gotten through to you.

 

[dragoneggs]

Arguing is good, that's one important aspect of Internet fora.

I would say that "getting something done" to many Mac users amounts to pushing one button and seeing what the computer provides for you. If what you are looking for doesn't appear, you're stuck. :laughing:

My advice to the OP is to stay current, don't live in the past. Computer technology waits for no one.

My brother is not provided the tools to solve computer issues, either by his hardware or software and by virtue of those, his experience.

Apple computers are not and never have been free from glitches. I'm typing this on my iPad, it has shortcomings just like my Kindle Fire HD and everything else. The latest IOS 7 just rendered all my subscribed magazines useless.

My first machine was a TRS-80. I have managed computer service centers and have worked as an engineer at Intel for twelve years so the number of machines that have been in my care vastly outnumber what most individuals have experienced, I suspect. I am not using that exposure to bolster my case, however. I'm just using simple logic and observation.

Now we have something in common... my first was a TRS-80 as well with a cassette tape drive/backup.... oh and an engineer too. I think there are a lot of old-timer Apple buffs that will say that the old Macs were the only way to go if you were in the graphics business. They were far ahead of MS-DOS technology and if my facts are straight, led to the creation of Windows. Didn't Apple sue MS for copying its GUI interface and Icon concept?

 

[Bird]

My first machine was a TRS-80.

My second one was a TRS-80, Model IV; a neighbor was using a Model III and sold me on the "trash 80".:laughing: But my first one was a 32k Color Computer with a 13" RCA color TV for a monitor and a cassette tape drive/backup. But that TRS-80 was probably the most trouble free reliable computer I've owned, in spite of people calling them a "trash 80".

 

[buickanddeere]

Purchase a Mac instead and forget about windows and it's problems.

 

[pacerron]

Here's a list of W-8 shortcut keys that makes navigation a lot simpler in some areas.

99 useful Keyboard Shortcuts for Windows 8.

 

[txdon]

Arguing is good, that's one important aspect of Internet fora.

I would say that "getting something done" to many Mac users amounts to pushing one button and seeing what the computer provides for you. If what you are looking for doesn't appear, you're stuck. :laughing:

As a 5 year Mac user - that is not correct. Everything I'm looking for I can find. Looking at all the problems the window's people are STILL having and all the problems I had with it in years past I just don't get why people prefer to frustrate themselves with that operating system. I guess sometimes low price makes tolerance higher.

 

[Soundguy]

My second one was a TRS-80, Model IV; a neighbor was using a Model III and sold me on the "trash 80".:laughing: But my first one was a 32k Color Computer with a 13" RCA color TV for a monitor and a cassette tape drive/backup. But that TRS-80 was probably the most trouble free reliable computer I've owned, in spite of people calling them a "trash 80".

lets see.. timex sinclair.. coco,, vic 20 c64/128 trs 80 apple 2-e even a original pc with no hdd and msdos ver 1 on disc, basic on rom.. massive 32k mem... just prior to that.. a 8088 sperry system running cpm

 

[foggy1111]

I've owned Windows based desktops and laptops for many years. Had all kinds in my business as well as personal computers. Got along OK....but had my share of windows issues from time to time but mostly overcame those issues. THEN......I bought a Windows 8 laptop. One of the biggest mistakes ever made!

Finally gave up on it.....and bought a MacBooks Air. Best change I've made in a long time. Takes a bit to learn to operate....but Problem solved!

Gonna be hard for me to ever go back to a PC based computer again. I also bought an I-Phone....and I'm happy with that too. GO APPLE!

 

[troutsqueezer]

For someone that is supposed to be an engineer you have some very poor observation skills and come to poor conclusions.

1. You magazine subscriptions that were rendered useless. It is not up to apple to update someone's app they need to update it to work with iOS 7.

2. I don't believe for one second that you see so many instances where a Mac can't do something. I have been using macs for over 5 years and I have never ran into an issue I can't resolve. It make take a program or a setting change but I would say their is very very few things a PC can do a Mac can't.

3. From a separate post of yours name some stuff Mac has that PC don't. How about the track pad on a Mac it is so much more advanced than any mouse pad in any PC laptop I've seen.

4. Quit jumping on people for just making a suggestion of looking at the Mac line up.

5. Everyone is entitled an opinion and for me and a few others in this thread we have had better service out if our macs. To us they seem more stable and with less issues. You may have had different experience with Mac and that's fine but don't tell us we are wrong and apparently have issues we don't know about and never see.

6. You are clearly a blind windows follower that doesn't even try to see what other offerings are out there to say Mac users push one button and just waits to see what happens and if what they want doesn't happen they give up is one of the dumbest statement I have ever heard.

7. I have developed apps for iOS and for android to me iOS is much much easier to develop for.

8. MS has lost touch with people and what they want they think they are big enough now to tell people what they want or else. The thing I like about apple is they continue to innovate and offer new features but keep the main day to day operation close to the same so users don't feel overwhelmed like windows has done with windows 8. If you want to use the new features you can but if you don't you can operate just as you always have.

9. Enjoy your windows cool aid because I'm sure none of this has gotten through to you.

Another observation: Mac users, when confronted with scrutiny, often resort to vitriol. You don't see this with PC users because as I stated before, they don't care.

 

[Fordman1981]

Another observation: Mac users, when confronted with scrutiny, often resort to vitriol. You don't see this with PC users because as I stated before, they don't care.

If you do t care why did you confront and attack someone for just recommending a Mac.