Advise for a first time Welder

   / Advise for a first time Welder #81  
The Forney in the picture is not what I have ever thought of as a buzz box. The ubiquitous Lincoln Tombstone 180 AC with a dial on the front They must have been cheap because every farmer in 100 mile radius had one. I once had a big Forney multi tap AC machine, I didn't need it, and gave it away. I can't now remember to whom.
 
   / Advise for a first time Welder #82  
I find my mig is great for light duty work. It's only a hobart 140. I tend to use the arc more now that I have to weld 1/4 and bigger on the backhoe.

I learned a lot watching you tube and just practicing, lots of pratice
 
   / Advise for a first time Welder #83  
If you guys want to see a beauty...
We have a welder in the barn just like this one and it still works...
Don't know how much it weighs but it is heavy...
My dad purchased this thing back in the early 50's and it was used...
I assume that it is a 1940's vintage...
It is what I learned on...
It is an AO Smith model 25-18...
The plates on it states 45 primary amps with a serial # of 25-16535...
If anybody knows anything about it I would appreciate any information...
 
   / Advise for a first time Welder #84  
That thing is badass :cool2:
 
   / Advise for a first time Welder #85  
If you guys want to see a beauty...
We have a welder in the barn just like this one and it still works...
Don't know how much it weighs but it is heavy...
My dad purchased this thing back in the early 50's and it was used...
I assume that it is a 1940's vintage...
It is what I learned on...
It is an AO Smith model 25-18...
The plates on it states 45 primary amps with a serial # of 25-16535...
If anybody knows anything about it I would appreciate any information...

Turby, That is an AC output stick welder by AO Smith. They are a tapped machine. Local job shop near me still uses 3 of those on a regular basis believe it or not (one of them even sits outside under an overhang but no walls and in the gravel yet still works. They used to own 6 of them and pushed them hard during WWII on production contracts for Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Back at that time they were one of the few "affordable" welders that would hold up under severe production environment duty cycles. While they do still use the 3 they have left today the shop is no longer using them at a mad pace production war level effort.

Your welder if taken care of will still be working when we are both dead and gone.
 
   / Advise for a first time Welder #86  
Turby, That is an AC output stick welder by AO Smith. They are a tapped machine. Local job shop near me still uses 3 of those on a regular basis believe it or not (one of them even sits outside under an overhang but no walls and in the gravel yet still works. They used to own 6 of them and pushed them hard during WWII on production contracts for Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Back at that time they were one of the few "affordable" welders that would hold up under severe production environment duty cycles. While they do still use the 3 they have left today the shop is no longer using them at a mad pace production war level effort.

Your welder if taken care of will still be working when we are both dead and gone.

Thanks for the input rankrank1...
We've used this old gal on the farm since the 50's and I doubt that it has been pushed as much as those machines you are referring to...
I do know that we have burned rod after rod after rod and the darn thing just keeps on going...
I have no idea the duty cycle on it but she is strong...
Lots of copper in that thing...
Again, thank you for the input...
 
   / Advise for a first time Welder #87  
The first welder I ever used was one my dad made out of a old power transformer. It was one of those old transformers you used to see hanging on a light pole outside every home. I dont know how it worked, but it had three setting, Hot, Hotter and Hells Fury!! Strickly Ac and you didnt have to worry about it sticking a rod.
 
   / Advise for a first time Welder #88  
Well I have a "Buzzbox" Lincoln Tombstone variety. and I have an nice little inverter.

The Buzzbox is for sale cheap if you want it.. I will help load it.. (we will be using the forks on the tractor):laughing:
 
   / Advise for a first time Welder #89  
Well I have a "Buzzbox" Lincoln Tombstone variety. and I have an nice little inverter.

The Buzzbox is for sale cheap if you want it.. I will help load it.. (we will be using the forks on the tractor):laughing:

My experience exactly. Once I got an inverter stick machine I couldn't imagine a need for the buzzbox ever again. Sold it via CL and helped the guy load it into his trunk.
 
   / Advise for a first time Welder #90  
When I was in my teens, I wanted a welder, I had done a fair amount with acetylene,but I longed for the capacity to build. The local business everyone in town bought everything they had from was pushing Twentieth Century, A smooth talking company rep. came to do a demonstration. He knew his stuff! This welder had features and technology the big two haven't caught up with forty plus years later. I was the youngest of the 20 or so potential buyers, so I was chosen to demonstrate that even a child can do it. With his coaching, I could! I of course ordered one. Mine an AC model, a few of the well healed citizens chose AC/DC. I've always wondered if he had something special in that red box that I didn't have in mine. It wasn't as easy as he made it seem, but I eventually was able to produce good sound welds. I've burned thousands of electrodes with that machine, and thawed many dozens of water lines. I still have it, it still works, but I haven't used it in years.

I do have a friend who does all the welding for a small excavating business who uses a Lincoln engine machine for break downs, but all shop work with a Lincoln Tombstone AC. He's a damned good welder!
 

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