Out of state guy who bought from Barlows

[Capricious]

"..The Paul Harvey I referred to was a newsman and commentator who had a massive audience. He received Presidential awards. The fact he included wit and creativity to his broadcasts didn't weaken his significance and quality of coverage. He also did an additional show a bit more light hearted . . Often during the war years..."



Paul Harvey was an entertainer, not a journalist. He may have been "significant" but "the other side of the story" is that there are those who questioned his truthfulness and accuracy.

Do a little research- it is not difficult to find his critics.




"..As far as my opinions and their "popularity" . . I'd choose accuracy or honesty or fairness before "popularity" anytime..."


No, you are choosing your opinion, and labeling it "accurate and fair." While you are entitled to your opinion, it is for the readers to determine if it is accurate and fair (in their opinion, of course)

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Congrats on the new tractor.
Glad we got to hear the rest of the story.

 

[Garandman]

which brings me to or back to Different strokes for different folks. I will step forth and make a bold statement, all business relationships should have two parties that are satisfied after the deal. Doesn't always happen but should for continued business relationships to continue. Buyer brings the money to the table and seller has a product that the buyer wants. Seller gets no money to keep doing more business and buyer walks away with his/her money and no product if they can't reach a mutually satisfying deal. Each parties should give and expect a decent level of respect. Some people do a lot of shopping around and lots of businesses go out of business.
I think from the information presented that the dealer you went to should be avoided unless the owner calls you and apologizes for his employee and if who you talked ot was the owner......go on down the road.:2cents:

We are equipment dealers (much different type) and our policy is "Win/Win or Walk." The customer must have the potential for a high return on investment and we must make a profit.

There are customers not worth the effort to deal. There are also incompetent or greedy dealerships. It sure sounds like the initial dealer has poor practices.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

We are equipment dealers (much different type) and our policy is "Win/Win or Walk." The customer must have the potential for a high return on investment and we must make a profit.

There are customers not worth the effort to deal. There are also incompetent or greedy dealerships. It sure sounds like the initial dealer has poor practices.

I agree on ALL COUNTS. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[AxleHub]

"..The Paul Harvey I referred to was a newsman and commentator who had a massive audience. He received Presidential awards. The fact he included wit and creativity to his broadcasts didn't weaken his significance and quality of coverage. He also did an additional show a bit more light hearted . . Often during the war years..."

Paul Harvey was an entertainer, not a journalist. He may have been "significant" but "the other side of the story" is that there are those who questioned his truthfulness and accuracy.

Do a little research- it is not difficult to find his critics.

"..As far as my opinions and their "popularity" . . I'd choose accuracy or honesty or fairness before "popularity" anytime..."

No, you are choosing your opinion, and labeling it "accurate and fair." While you are entitled to your opinion, it is for the readers to determine if it is accurate and fair (in their opinion, of course)

Greetings Capricious,

I understand you think you are clever but do you understand your points are not logical?

My opinions are not written "to be something" . . they are "motivated to produce". I don't "label them" . . I write because I believe there is better reasoning and value in voicing fairness and balance rather than writing to be popular or not balanced.

Here's an example: You wrote "Paul Harvey was an entertainer, not a journalist. He may have been "significant" but "the other side of the story" is that there are those who questioned his truthfulness and accuracy.
Do a little research- it is not difficult to find his critics."

Can you name me a single person living or dead who did not have critics? Your argument is not logical or reasonable.

Just as how this thread was developed. There were 3 parties . . a dealer . . a prospect . . and distant dealer (Barlows).
The dealer did poor choices . . I stated that. The prospect waffled from post to post about his uncertainties or certainties regarding the dealer and trust of the second dealer (barlows). In effect he wanted readers to support Barlows when he didn't know/did know/didn't know if the dealer was correct in his statements about barlows.

I stated I believed that while the prospect was a victim . . the prospect was also throwing Barlows into a situation they didn't deserve.

So how did it all work out? Prospect got emotional with dealer. Prospect got emotional with me. Dealer is mad at Barlows. Prospect attempted several times . . but failed to make me look bad. Prospect bought from a 3rd dealer. And Barlows spent time and effort helping the Prospect . . Barlows did everything like prospects want and deserve . . Barlow made no sale . . And Barlows has a mean dealer who is mad at them.

The point is . . Barlows deserved nothing but praise but ended up with nothing but negative for being the good guy in the story . . just as I stated was my issue from the beginning.

 

[KiwiBro]

The point is . . Barlows deserved nothing but praise but ended up with nothing but negative for being the good guy in the story . . just as I stated was my issue from the beginning.

A few more points if I may. Not only is Barlows potentially harmed, but every other Kubota dealer in the prospect's area is too because the prospect did not name the bad dealer, leaving readers to guess - there are a few different dealers in that area.

Further, how about we can't pin the blame for the potential harm to Barlows upon the prospect, because not only would Barlows be wise enough to realise they open themselves up to some heat when quoting to out of state prospects, but the blame for the heat could be placed squarely at the feet of the bad dealer who has decided to get antsy about it despite it clearly not being something they have any control over and must have assumed the risks of such when they signed the dealer agreement with Kubota.

Another benefit of naming the bad dealer would be for someone from out of state to call them for a price and see if they themselves are willing to sell into another dealer's 'area' (if there is such a thing these days).

In any case, I would consider it somewhat naive by anyone who bought out of state and needing warranty repairs to expect their needs to be prioritised above those of locals who have bought from the repairer. Don't get me wrong, all such repairs should be handled professionally and in a timely manner but it just stands to reason the repairer is going to support those who supported them, first, in most cases. It doesn't mean they are disrespectful, but they can hardly demand locals support them if they are not supporting supportive locals also.

 

[Code54]

To address the original question - I bought from Barlows and had a trade in. Everything was exactly as stated and delivered in a very timely manner. They were great to deal with and if I needed another machine they would be on the short list!

 

[aczlan]

Another benefit of naming the bad dealer would be for someone from out of state to call them for a price and see if they themselves are willing to sell into another dealer's 'area' (if there is such a thing these days).

However, that is not allowable on TBN and such "naming and shaming" would be removed in short order as it could open the poster and TBN up for a libel lawsuit.

In any case, I would consider it somewhat naive by anyone who bought out of state and needing warranty repairs to expect their needs to be prioritised above those of locals who have bought from the repairer. Don't get me wrong, all such repairs should be handled professionally and in a timely manner but it just stands to reason the repairer is going to support those who supported them, first, in most cases. It doesn't mean they are disrespectful, but they can hardly demand locals support them if they are not supporting supportive locals also.

I agree.

Aaron Z

 

[KiwiBro]

I'd say TBN's backside is pretty well covered:

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[aczlan]

I'd say TBN's backside is pretty well covered:

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So the lawyer would sue TBN for providing the forum and failing to remove the content instead of for the actual libel. The terms of use notwithstanding, a lawyer would sue TBN anyways because TBN (or its insurance company) are more likely to offer a settlement to make them go away and they likely have deeper pockets.
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