Is "breakout force" the amount a loader will lift?

[GPintheMitten]

Looking at the definitions posted I guess I had them wrong. But thinking in terms if what the bucket does, the curl breaks it out of the ground or pile with more strength than with the lifting the arms. And my cylinders are same for each function but the geometry makes the curl function gets the job done when lift arms wont. At least I think it is the geometry.

I'll let the science majors complete the analysis or debate.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

Looking at the definitions posted I guess I had them wrong. But thinking in terms if what the bucket does, the curl breaks it out of the ground or pile with more strength than with the lifting the arms. And my cylinders are same for each function but the geometry makes the curl function gets the job done when lift arms wont. At least I think it is the geometry.

I'll let the science majors complete the analysis or debate.

That's what I was thinking too. I have more curling power than lifting power.

 

[davrow]

I have more curling power than lifting power.

I used to be able to curl more than I could press. Can't do much of either anymore! <just to get the thread drift going>

 

[MossRoad]

I used to be able to curl more than I could press. Can't do much of either anymore! <just to get the thread drift going>

I could never curl more than I could press. And I, too, believe the older I get the better I was.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

I could never curl more than I could press. And I, too, believe the older I get the better I was.

I'm like Toby Keith: I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was. :laughing:

 

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Yeah, ya know, because some foreign manufacturers trying to break into the American market would never juggle their figures depending how and where they measure from and will always follow ASAE specs. Now in this picture , there seems to be a "combination" of forces to describe breakout as what I believe James was trying to communicate before you questioned him.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...1127245693-breakout-force-738917-pict-201-jpg
What seems totally silly are the people who defend ASAE specs as justification for using numbers that are meaningless. All the specs are ASAE specs, the question always has to go back to EXACTLY WHICH ASAE spes are you trying to compare? And is there any real world application that can be applied to those numbers . . . or are those numbers used because they are confusing and mislead consumers into thinking the loader is stronger than it really is?