Outside air intake

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Our stove is in the basement, too. It's the only place it would fit. It's near an outside stairwell with the bulkhead doors outside, so I just stack the wood in those stairs in winter. Nice in that it holds about 3 weeks of continuous burn wood, plus 5 days in the house.

To get heat upstairs to our living room on the other side of the house, I ran a duct from above the stove to a floor register at one end of the living room. In that duct I installed a high-temperature booster fan. That is connected to a thermostat mounted in the ceiling of the room with the wood burner in it. When the temperature of the wood burner room gets up to 78, it kicks on the booster fan, sending hot air from directly above the stove up to the living room. When the woodburner room temperature drops to 76, the thermostat cuts out and the blower goes off. Works great.

I'll probably have to do something like this Moss. Do you happen to know the cfm output of your fan? Also, how long a run is your ducting?
 
   / Outside air intake #82  
I have the same stove and also replaced my door seal with a thicker one after the 2nd or 3rd year. It's been good for 7 now.

Also, if you don't know about it, there's a gasket that goes over that center metal piece with the holes in it at the top of the box. It's called the secondary air manifold. It runs from front to back. The two baffles rest on it. That gasket gets burnt out every 3-4 years for us. It's called the secondary air manifold gasket. Page 31 of the manual....

https://www.napoleonproducts.com/downloads/fireplaces/manuals/W415-1468.pdf

Thanks for the tips! I'm struggling to understand why the secondary air manifold needs a gasket... it's already letting in fresh air there. Will investigate mine if I ever get a chance to stop burning. This early winter has us sucking down wood already, about a full face cord so far this year.
 
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That said I am surprised at the slight lingering smoke smell in the living room when using it???

Door gasket nice and tight and the stainless looks great and I can inspect just about all of it...

Is it typical for there to always be at least a hint of lingering smoke odor when heating with wood?

As others noted, I would have to say NOPE, not normal to always smell smoke. In fact I get so used to our house being toasty hot without any smell that often when I step outside the house and smell some, and remember "oh yeah, we're burning wood". Check for leaks. And do you have functioning CO alarms?
 
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I'll probably have to do something like this Moss. Do you happen to know the cfm output of your fan? Also, how long a run is your ducting?

Move the cold air to the stove. Blowing hot air through a fan cools it. You can use the same setup just reverse the fan direction. You woud be sucking cold air at the floor level of the room and blowing it into the wood stove room. This would allow the hot air in the wood stove room to move to the next room or where ever the fan is sucking from. Slow moving hot air stays alot hotter than fast moving hot air.
 
   / Outside air intake #85  
I'll probably have to do something like this Moss. Do you happen to know the cfm output of your fan? Also, how long a run is your ducting?

450cfm 8" duct, about 12' of solid duct and 20' of flex duct.
 
   / Outside air intake #86  
Move the cold air to the stove. Blowing hot air through a fan cools it. You can use the same setup just reverse the fan direction. You woud be sucking cold air at the floor level of the room and blowing it into the wood stove room. This would allow the hot air in the wood stove room to move to the next room or where ever the fan is sucking from. Slow moving hot air stays alot hotter than fast moving hot air.

Wouldn't work in our house. Too many doors, rooms, hallways, stairs, etc... for the air to travel.
 
   / Outside air intake #87  
Move the cold air to the stove. Blowing hot air through a fan cools it. You can use the same setup just reverse the fan direction. You woud be sucking cold air at the floor level of the room and blowing it into the wood stove room. This would allow the hot air in the wood stove room to move to the next room or where ever the fan is sucking from. Slow moving hot air stays alot hotter than fast moving hot air.
I have done both. I had small fans on the floor at the end of the hallways pointed back towards the center of the house where the wood stove is. That worked well but I was always stubbing my toes on the fans when I got up at night to refill the stove, piddle the dogs or whatever. Plus it made the bedrooms (at the far ends of the 1 story house) too warm to sleep. So I switched to a couple of small fans hanging from the ceiling near the stove pointed down the halls. Less CFM and the bedrooms stay cooler, but not cold. About perfect for sleeping. I also have the central air fan on a cycle relay where the fan comes on a few minutes every hour just to spead some heat around. That I only use when it is below freezing outside. You do make a good point in that cold air moves down hallways along the flat unobstructed floors very well. It just was not working out for my toes and waking up everyone in the house when I cursed them (cursed the fans) at 3 AM .
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   / Outside air intake #88  
Ultrarunner your basicly running it in damper open mode until it reaches 550f flue temp? Wheres the themometer? 1800f running temp is to hot. **** i hardly ever see over 550f alone.

Stove pipe thermometers should be 1ft above the stove as per the two i own.

I don't want to damage the stove and am new to outside air and Catalytic Stoves...

The "Normal" operating range as indicated on the Thermometer is 525F to 1750F... so I'm thinking anywhere in normal is good?
 

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I don't want to damage the stove and am new to outside air and Catalytic Stoves...

The "Normal" operating range as indicated on the Thermometer is 525F to 1750F... so I'm thinking anywhere in normal is good?

Interesting. I think most of us are thinking of the temperature of the chimney pipe.
 
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Speaking of cats-----
Had one that liked to hop up and be close to whatever you were doing.

Well my wife just filled the washing machine and up hops the cat and takes a swim as the lid was up.

You never heard such a loud yawl and a wet streak across the room!
 

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