Inconsiderate drivers and tractor operators, bad mix...

[Hay Dude]

No, I am pretty much a libertarian. BUT, you can't have Ag stuff just getting bigger and bigger and everyone is just ok with that. Construction companies build the roads, houses and schools so farmers feeding the people is a rather dumb point.

Besides, the largest machines are often CASH CROPPERS. Really hardly farmers in the traditional sense. All JUST about money and profit.

You don’t have a clue what youre talking about. It’s the STATES that permit width of farm equipment NOT farmers.
Go complain to your state bureaucrats, NOT the farmer. Construction vehicles drive millions of miles on roads. Farmers drive a minuscule amount compared to that. Don’t go throwing rocks at my way of life and feeding people.
Money & profit? Are you kidding me? There’s so little money in farming under 1000 acres and the machinery is still huge.....you don’t know what youre talking about.
Stick to your industrial toys...

 

[Industrial Toys]

All farmers ever do here is complain. I know it's more complicated than this, but if they don't like, find something else to do. Just tired of hearing farmers (in this country) complain.

You don't usually have airports sharing runways with Jumbos and Cesnas. Who would think that massive farm equipment could share a two lane paved road with vehicles? At least without some basic rules understood by all.

 

[Hay Dude]

Construction guys have a pretty important job to but they don’t have any of the freedom a farmer has. Try driving a 988 loader down the road ad see how it goes.

Yeah....freedom...
I just worked Saturday 5 to dark, Sunday 7 to after dark and Labor Day 7 to dark. Construction guys are all on vacations with their families.

Yeah....farmers have all the freedom. That’s a Joke.

You don’t understand the importance of food and the urgency of getting crops made.
By the way, I also own a construction business and have driven construction equipment down the road all the time.

 

[Hay Dude]

All farmers ever do here is complain. I know it's more complicated than this, but if they don't like, find something else to do. Just tired of hearing farmers (in this country) complain.

You don't usually have airports sharing runways with Jumbos and Cesnas. Who would think that massive farm equipment could share a two lane paved road with vehicles? At least without some basic rules understood by all.

Like I said. States make the rules on equipment width, not farmers.
And you still havent offered a solution.....just complain, complain, complain.....

So is it I need to buy a permit? Is that really going to solve ONE freakin thing Industrial toys?
Or should we shut down all farm equipment on roads??? Yeah....that’s the answer.
Bet youd be the first to complain about rising food costs....

 

[Industrial Toys]

I didn't know that responding to a thread was complaining. And Big equipment on the roads is NOT even on my radar for peeves, pet or otherwise. Just making observations.

The stupid flashing lighting schemes on modern equipment is just simply retarded! Like has been discussed (if you even read it), some kind of beacon, and standard automotive lighting and turn signals. With use thereof enforced as with vehicles under the highway traffic act.

Then some restrictions as to where very large equipment can and can't go. Just like with trucks. Maybe time restrictions.

Then, some clear proceedures for large equipment operators and the motoring public as far as right of way and so forth.

Can you imagine the mayhem if suddenly everyone started driving around with their four ways on?

 

[Drstrangeglove]

Yeah....freedom...
I just worked Saturday 5 to dark, Sunday 7 to after dark and Labor Day 7 to dark. Construction guys are all on vacations with their families.

Yeah....farmers have all the freedom. That’s a Joke.

You don’t understand the importance of food and the urgency of getting crops made.
By the way, I also own a construction business and have driven construction equipment down the road all the time.

Some do. Like the time a farmer wound up 50 feet of fiber optic after busting a handhold while bush hogging. And then there is the time they burned their land and used the road as a fire brake melted the the box holding the coil of fiber. That one one only cost about $30k. Then there is the numerous time a farmer decided to clean the ditch in front of their house with a backhoe on Saturday.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Nothing more pathetic (IMO) than a person trying to make arguments coming from a position of emotion and anger. Just saying.

AND, just for the record, I do have not one but TWO tennant farmers, on the farm where I live full time. One Organic and one CASH CROPPER. So I am not some city slicker sitting in my armchair high in my penthouse, without as you say, a clue.

 

[aczlan]

I didn't know that responding to a thread was complaining. And Big equipment on the roads is NOT even on my radar for peeves, pet or otherwise. Just making observations.

The stupid flashing lighting schemes on modern equipment is just simply retarded! Like has been discussed (if you even read it), some kind of beacon, and standard automotive lighting and turn signals. With use thereof enforced as with vehicles under the highway traffic act.

Then some restrictions as to where very large equipment can and can't go. Just like with trucks. Maybe time restrictions.

Then, some clear proceedures for large equipment operators and the motoring public as far as right of way and so forth.

Can you imagine the mayhem if suddenly everyone started driving around with their four ways on?

The 4 ways on every tractor built in the last 40 years are interlocked with the turn signals so that the turn signals override them.
The turn signals are setup so that when you put on your left turn signal, the left turn signal flashes while the right turn signal stops flashing and turns on solid (just like a car with combined brake/turn signals when you turn on the turn signals and hit the brakes).
Not all tractor drivers use them, but that is how they are setup.
If you can't figure out what that means, it's time to hang up the keys and turn in your license.

As for width, we have a 1960s era 9' cut mower conditioner and it's almost 12' wide.
Most modern equipment folds up to be not much wider than that.
Here are PA's rules on width for ag equipment: http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/d...Sheets/Implements of Husbandry Fact Sheet.pdf

Aaron Z

 

[tduby]

Lets hear your proposal for large AG equipment, which Im sure you realize is used to, produce food?
I have enough BS to deal with. You suggesting I need to get an over width permit to drive a few miles between fields?
Is it build real small AG machinery and go back to the stone ages?
Maybe we oughta go back to baling hay with mule teams and put it away loose in the barn?
Everyone wants cheap food, but complains about anything farmers do.

I need more stinkin permits like I need more government regulations.

Well if you are going to drive on the roads yes there probably should be some regulations about maximum width and where and when they can use the roads. I don’t think that is to much nor is anyone asking you to go back to mules but let’s be over dramatic for effect ��

I don’t know why you think your job is any more or less important than anybody else that you should be less regulated than anyone else. And if cheap food is what we want giant farm complexes with vast swaths of land is probably ideal not 1000’s of smaller farms scattered around the country so probably not the best argument to make in this instance.

 

[K5lwq]

The thing to think about is in most businesses, if the cost of doing business increases, you can pass that cost on to the customer. The farmer is raising a commodity. Their cost of doing business goes up and the price they get for their crop can go down. A totally different ballgame.

Farmers are moving equipment a few miles at a time not hundreds of miles over the road. Having to go get a permit to change fields would be ridiculous and would do nothing to make things safer or better.

I also think regulations on other businesses is getting a little ridiculous as well. But anyway, my hat is off to the farmer. Thank you for doing what you do!