Does anybody know of any cheaper alternatives for Kioti relays?

[MinnesotaEric]

Back before the dead internet when a guy could readily find things, this was easier to puzzle out. Now with the truncated search results I'm having trouble identifying less expensive alternatives for the 4-pin 70A T4180-69951 and 5-pin T4180-69961 which hang out under the hood, as well as the 5-pin 20A T4180-69941 relays that populate the fuse box.

 

[Eagle1]

The 961 relay is a straight swap for the the 941 per searches YMMV

9.99
T4180-69961 T5535-69961 for Kioti Tractors

Fridayparts T5535-69951 T4180-69951 T2198-69951 4Pin Preheating Relay for Kioti CK DK Series

 

[flyerdan]

Quick search shows the 951 at Walmart for under $10, the 961 on ebay for $8 and change. No luck on the other, but might check Digi-Key or similar. I'm sure someone's already posted a link.

 

[caver]

Relay 5 Prong fits Kioti CK20 CK25 CK27 CK30 CK35 DK35 DK40 DK45 DK50 DK75 DS3510 DS4110 DS4110 HS DS4510 LK3054 LK3504 MEC2200GW T5535-69961

Relay, 5 Prong for Kioti Tractor(s) CK20, CK25, CK27, CK30, CK35, DK35, DK40, DK45, DK50, DK75, DS3510, DS4110, DS4110 HS, DS4510, LK3054, LK3504, UTV(s) MEC2200GW. Replaces Kioti OEM Number(s) T5535-69961, T2368-69961, T4710-69971, T4180-69961.

www.tractorpartsasap.com

 

[MinnesotaEric]

As I suspected, it turns out that Kioti uses standard relays. The only weird things are:

1) Under the hood the tab is on the opposite side of the relays I have so a guy will need to twist the harness to plug in the socket.

2) While using standard relay sockets for a automotive 5-pin and square 4-pin, the OEM relays are slightly smaller than standard. This matters in the fuse box because the relays are jam-packed in tightly.


All to say I have NOT found a replacement for the 69941 20A 5-pin fuse box relay.

But for the 69951 70A, a cheap 4-pin normally open relay will work. Amazon.com: EHDIS 4-Pin Relay 12V 80A Automotive Car Relay On/Off Normally Open Car Truck Boat SPST Relays High Power Model JD2912-1H-12VDC 80A 14VDC [2 Pack] : Automotive

And for the 6996130/20A 5-pin, just get any 5-pin that is normally closed on the 87a pin that switches to the 87 pin when energized.

 

[mrmikey]

When companies divert from a common, standard, reasonably price product so you have to purchase from them at a stupid overinflated price that really pizzes me off. Good thing there's people around that don't mind making a few changes to save some $$$. Sorry, the fact that a person has to jump thru hoops annoys me....in case it's not obvious LOL.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

The OEM T4180-69941 relays that were manufactured by OMRON are 25.7mm square, so I called Digikey to find an equivalent. Talking with a tech, I powered the OEM T4180-69941 relay switching hot and ground on pins 85 and 86 thereby confirming that the OEM relay does not have a diode, and the Digikey tech determined that Digikey part number 3385-AZ9731-1C-12DC3R1-ND should be a proper replacement. FWIW, the Kioti T4180-69961 is the same relay except it has a tab and Digikey has that option as well.

If you look at the Data Sheet of of the following link, you can see the variants of the relay.

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/american-zettler/AZ9731-1C-12DC3R1/12171641?s=N4IgTCBcDaIMxwBwFYC0BBAXgTgOxwEZUCBhYsAEQGM4AlIgOwBMQBdAXyA

I ordered 14 relays and got to pay an additional $8.65 in tariffs because apparently American Zettler who makes the Digikey-sourced relays must manufacture them in China.

For the record, the Zettler relays ordered through Digikey are ever-so-slightly smaller than the OEM T4180-69941 relays and so they will fit just fine in Kioti's fuse box as a replacement. The Internet can thank me later.

 

[grsthegreat]

14 relays….man your blowing alot of relays. In 14 years ive replaced 3.

And those were the twin relays that run wipers, plus one that ran the pto

 

[MinnesotaEric]

14 relays….man your blowing alot of relays. In 14 years ive replaced 3.

And those were the twin relays that run wipers, plus one that ran the pto

14 relays….man your blowing alot of relays. In 14 years ive replaced 3.

And those were the twin relays that run wipers, plus one that ran the pto

I use standard 5-pin relays in a variety of things other than Kioti tractors and at $2.80 each plus tax, shipping and tariff, the price was right.