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I adapted a small wheelchair motor to rotate my chute. It's 24V and turns it nice and slow on 12V. It did take some fabricating though.

I recall that Burroughs became Unisys? No?

I had never owned an automatic trans until several years ago when I bought a 7.3L 1996 F250 from a friend. When the E4OD auto started acting up I replaced it with a ZF6 manual transmission. It has been a huge improvement.

Welcome to the group. Just a suggestion, it might help getting responses if you mention the model of your tractor in the title. Also, pictures of broken parts always help.

I have an older Teslong that has since been replaced by the articulated models. It’s well made for the price, has been very useful and I would buy another Teslong.

The Iseki manual for the GC1720 does list a "Governor, all speed." I hope I haven't been coming across as argumentative, it's just that I initially do not accept any info that comes from the internet, and...you guys are, after all, the internet.:) I have noticed that the rpm's will drift down...

The plot thickens again. I talked to the MF dealer in Fallon, NV where I got my GC1720 and their reply was no governor. I tried to find a national Agco/MF technical support contact but they seem to want you to direct technical questions to your dealer. Maybe I need to conduct a poll and...

The dye might be a good idea. I use Lubrication Engineers Power Fluid 7500 which has a reddish color to it that makes it real easy to see in the sight glass. I have a motorcycle with a sight glass and I once overfilled it due to not being able to tell when the sight glass was empty or full...

CalG, Thanks for taking the time to post these diagrams. I also called Vahrenburg (sp?) MF dealer in Missouri and they confirmed that with a GC1720, there is a governor that will maintain the engine RPM within reasonable limit as the generator load changes.

There is a difference between a Diesel engine designed to power a generator and a Diesel in a subcompact tractor. I’m hoping someone can provide an explanation about a governor in a small tractor.

The thread starter here has a 25 or so HP subcompact tractor. I also have one and I'm not convinced there is a governor. The throttle lever controls the fuel feed in the injector pump but I don't see any sort of feedback device. I think any significant load increase is going to drop the...

That’s what I figured. So for a fairly constant load it should work OK once the throttle is adjusted.

I know this is an older thread. Just wondering how a GC series tractor maintains the right RPM to keep a PTO generator at 60Hz when running unattended for hours at a time? I could be wrong but I think the speed control lever is just held in place by friction and there is no actual governor...

Those engines are pretty much bullet proof so I don’t think there are many forum members with engine repair experience. If it were my tractor I would spend the money and go with the OEM gasket. Aftermarket parts in general can be great or not so great, there is some risk involved.

Like BlueKnife says, Taiwan tool as a general rule are good. I avoid all Chinese made tools, regardless of brand, partly due to quality issues and partly due to politics. Harbor Freight's house brand Icon hand tools are made in Taiwan and just about as good as it gets and for a reasonable...

I like your canopy, cooling fan and hanging hand tool storage and I'm going to copy your tool storage method. I have a covermytractor brand canopy, looks similar to yours.

Thanks all for your helpful replies. I will pass them on to the group that owns the tractor. Edit: I talked to Dillon at Dave's Tractor and he provided a very reasonable quote for the spindle and associated bearings, seal and a few other miscellaneous related parts. The spindle is in stock...

A local mining historic site was unloading some artifacts with maybe 300 lbs in the loader bucket when the right front spindle broke off, taking the wheel and tire with it. There does not seem to be a Branson section here, does anyone know if this is a common failure? I wonder if Branson parts...

Good to hear!

We had a similar mice in the walls problem years ago and by good fortune ran across a “Free Kittens” sign on a telephone pole. We brought home 2 brothers and Wallah! No more mouse problems. They cats were also a very entertaining and welcome addition to the household.

I haven’t worked on a MF steering cylinder but my experience with other cylinders is that the caps are ridiculously hard to loosen. Just my bias against dealers but if you have a local hydraulic shop you might be better off taking it there. I’m picturing a dealer “tech” messing with the caps...

Sadly, can't help you. Some of the original Metabo, not Metabo HPT, tools are still made in Europe. Some are made in Taiwan, where they make better stuff than China and aren't our enemy, but even Metabo is going to Chinese manufacturing.

Just wondering how this ended up? Not many of us have got this far into repairs, sorry if we weren't more help.

Lifted a steering clutch out of my old Allis Chalmers HD6G

Carter and Sons website says they are out of stock for cat 0 and cat 1 hitches.

I have two, a Pirhana and a standard tooth bar from I think Titan. The standard tooth bar is better for getting under and tearing out heavy brush. Pirhana might be better for digging. I think I'd go with a standard tooth bar if I only had one.

Well, due to this thread, I broke down and bought a set of arrestors.

I was about to say the same thing, but I suppose it's best for a new welder to use arrestors, I don't think they are expensive.

A heat pump sales guy tried to sell me on a heat pump replacement for central heating. It was not a mini split, it was a central heat pump unit. Didn't do it though, mainly because the duct work in this old place is not very efficient and would need reworking to make the heat pump worthwhile.

Here's mine, a 96 F250 PSD with about 250,000 on it. Runs good and is a workhorse. Use it mainly for desert exploring, firewood, dragging stuff home that I don't need and occasional towing.

Nice fix. Tie rod ends from a Yamaha ATV? Can you post the years and model? Thanks

I have a 2018 Massey Ferguson GC1720 and it's a hard worker. I use the heck out of it and has never skipped a beat.

Interesting about your max gust of 19.7 mph being a record. I think you easterners get a lot more cold than we do but we must get a lot more wind. 19.7 mph would be considered close to a dead calm here, we don't start getting excited until it gets over 60 mph. The record on our backyard...

We get wet heavy Sierra cement here. I have some relatively cheap unstudded chains on all four R4 tires but I don’t recall where I got them. They work well in snow, I have never used them in mud. I’ve used them on my GC1720 for years and never even thought about a clearance problem. I added...

Connecting to the rear light wiring is a great idea, thanks!

Dave, one last question. The LED light bars that I used on another project came with wiring harnesses with relays. Did you use relays or use switches wired directly and rated for the current? Hope I’m not being a nuisance with all these questions.

I’ve used T6 in everything from tractors to ATV’s and motorcycles. It works fine.

I know this thread is a couple of months old but I thought I’d add my two cents worth. I recently had the rear tires on my GC1720 filled with Rimguard beet juice and I’m happy with the results. The only downside so far is the weight when putting them back on.

Dave, it sounds like you are prepared and a good neighbor. Winter hasn’t really arrived yet here, just a total of about 0.3 inches of drizzly rain. But it’s coming! I’ve been busy installing a “Cover My Tractor” brand cab and rigging up a windshield wiper and electric chute control for the...

A picture is worth a thousand words!(y)

Thanks, that is what I have been thinking also.

Dave, Where and how did you tie your LED light bar and smaller auxiliary LED lights into the electrical system? Did you find a reasonably accessible place that is switched? Or direct to the battery? Also, where did you put the switch(es)? I’m struggling with all of the above. Thank you.

We are probably neighbors. Years ago some of the Callahan’s cows would get loose and visit our garden, not very often though. Same case here, it is or was open range and my job to keep the cows out. I never complained and it didn’t happen often enough to be a problem. The old ranch area is...

I woudn't over think this. Seems like it is common sense to continue changing the hydro fluid ever 300 miles as long as you own the tractor. You might call your dealer's service department and ask them why the manual stops requiring maintenance after 800 hours.

I install a lot of similar bronze historical plaques. The foundry man casts raised bosses at each corner. All we have to do is drill and tap them. This is a lot simpler than brazing 4 nuts and you might ask your artist about it. Of course, it will complicate the casting work.

As a general principle, when I buy a used machine I go through and change all the fluids. That way there is no question about what or when it was changed. It’s also a ritual that goes toward making a new to me machine my machine.

Here is one reason I decided to bite the bullet and get a cab. Not much fun getting frozen and ice coated while snowblowing! Finally just had enough of it.

GC1720 Cab Kind of a funny name but the Cover My Tractor cabs seemed to get better reviews than the Original Tractor Cab Company versions. Edit: I see that you have a GC2400. Not sure if the link above will fit your tractor but they have versions for all of the GC series tractors. Website...

:) OK, I'll get photos up as soon as it's installed.

Not something I did with my GC1720, but something that I did for the tractor. Gearing up for winter, I ordered a Cover My Tractor brand soft cab. They estimated 6 weeks or so for delivery.

Nice finds. I was expecting rusted out junk.

I found a blower for my GC1720 on Craigslist. My suggestion is to regularly search CL and FB Marketplace. The blowers for most all tractors are made by the same company, the width of the blower and the adapters for each tractor are the difference. I modified one designed for a New Holland...

You lost me here. The cabs don't require that the ROPS be folded down.

I know this thread is 6+ years old but it's still a valid topic. I emailed OTC and asked why their hardtop cab was not sold for the GC1720 when it was sold for the GC1705 and GC1715. The tractors are pretty much identical and I thought it had something to do with the backhoe, which of course...

The best how did you meet story I know is my sister-in-law and her ex. They were volunteering at a community civil disaster training event. They ended up laying in the street next to each other, killed by the simulated disaster. When no one was looking they talked a bit and ended up exchanging...

Piled up some horse manure. A lot easier to move than gravel or dirt but slightly stinkier.

I have a Metabo SB 18 LTX BL hammer drill that I’m happy with. Powerful and nicely made in Germany. I’m willing to pay more for cordless tools that are not made in China. I haven’t quantified the battery life but the three 5.2 Ah batteries it came with last a long time. The batteries are...

Jt’s already at the dealer so it’s a moot point but from here it sure looks like you could splice in a union And a ew piece of tuning somewhere on either side of the leak. Maybe not pretty but not expensive either. But you are likely better off taking the route you did.

Not much help here. Mine is not leaking.

Have you tried taking it off the jack stands and running it on the ground?

I put them on my wife’s Kona a few months ago and she’s very happy with them. Plus, they look cool.

Looks great. Plus an office upstairs. Doesn’t get much better.

I checked the AGCO parts site and all I found were pin and bushing kits for larger tractors. If all else fails, it would be a project and maybe not worth it but you could ream the bores and install suitable bushings.

Made a 400+ mile round trip to CA to pick up a used Rhino rear 3 point hitch blade. It has a 71“ blade which on paper is probably too wide for my GC1720 but it works perfectly and is a big improvement over my box scraper for grading drainage slope at the edges of a road. All of the implements...

If you go to an auto parts store most parts are from China these days. China seems to be very adept at reverse engineering parts or making them in conjunction with companies from other countries. Wasn’t like this when I was in charge.

We’re not too far different here. Turned on a faucet a couple of days ago and water came out of the hose for the first time since probably October. The change this week was just about instantaneous, from freezing snowstorms to t shirt and motorcycle weather literally overnight. I’m taking...

Welcome to Tractorbynet! There is a dedicated Massey Ferguson Owning and Operating forum further down on the page. I think you should get better answers if you ask your question there.

"Enough" with some blue Loctite.

I hooked up a top and tilt system on my GC1720. I used parts and hoses that I already had and it’s pretty ugly so I ain’t goona post no pictures till I get it cleaned up. It passed a shop test but I haven’t actually used it. Weather is supposed to lighten up later in the week and I’ll be...

Do you have a link or a name of the product you used to wrap the hoses? Thanks.

How is the fluid level?

The OP has ‘t been active here since 2020. We probably won’t know how it all turned out.

I know this thread is old but it just happens that I recently measured my GC1720 top link. It's 14-1/2" minimum and 18-7/8 maximum.

Second day working with the welded arm. It seems fine and I think I will give myself at least a B+ for welding and heat treating.

Yeah, TSC’s offering is way too long. For now I’m going to stay with the weld repaired arm.

I used it today with a box scraper and the weld held up fine. I didn't have any of the ripper teeth down and that was what caused the initial problem when a tooth got caught on a large immovable rock. So far so good.

Here is what I found on their website. They say they have 3 in stock at my local store but it is about 10" too long which won't work. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/countyline-forged-lift-arm?cm_vc=-10005

That’s what I did and I’ll soon know. We have more rain on the way and I need to do more work on the road drainage.

Yes, a visit to Tractor Supply is on my list for tomorrow, storm allowing. I think the new set just has to be close.

I agree it’s an unusual looking break. I was pulling. Looking closer at the part, I see bending brake marks where the angles were bent. So, it’s not a cast steel part like I originally thought. Now I believe the break was caused by improper cooling after the end ball was welded in. My...

That is my plan if I don’t find satisfactory replacements. I woke up in the night thinking about ways to make the bends.

I was working on road drainage with a box scraper on my GC1720 , going slowly on a mild downgrade when Snap! The corner of the scraper caught on an immovable rock and one of the lower 3 point lift arms broke right off. It appears to be cast steel, as opposed to cast iron or fabricated from...

I think it was in the early 1970’s when a group of squatters had been living on BLM land for I don’t know how many years near Dyer, NV. The BLM tried to evict them but the court awarded the squatters title to the land.

I do that with my front mount snowblower and it works fine, no appreciable drivetrain stress. However, with a high inertia implement like a rear mount chipper shredder the engine will die unless the RPM’s are up. There is a throttle lag so trying to immediately give the engine more fuel when...

I have a Bearcat chipper/shredder that I’m very happy with and I have to say that I don’t understand why you believe that dealer availability is important. The machine is simple, chipper blades are relatively easy to sharpen or change, although they are a little bit of a project. Mine has...

Cleared the snow from around the neighborhood fire hydrant.

Here is an older, long and very interesting coyote thread. https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/threads/found-a-coyote-i-think.238908/ We live in the middle of coyote country and they’ve never been a problem, I think because there are plenty of rabbits and rodents in general to keep them...

I have had a GC1720 for 5 years now and have used and abused the heck out of it. I would buy it again. Can’t speak to the MMM though, don’t have one.

Are live oaks any good for lumber? Could you get someone with a Woodmizer or similar portable sawmill to mill some of it? (I posted this before seeing 3Ts’ post above)

How old are the existing hoses? Very unlikely that they are going to break, especially under such light duty service. If they are old, just replace them.

That looks like used oil. My guess is that a scammer bought a bucket of oil, changed it, poured the old oil back into the bucket, carefully cleaned it to make it look new and took it back to Tractor Supply for a refund.

What did the leak turn out to be? I’m guessing itwas nothing serious or expensive.

They are both Chinese now so brand loyalty is kind of absurd.

I also bought the same chipper used with the shredder accessory. My MF GC1720 with somewhere around only 20 pto HP powers it just fine. If I feed it too much it will bog but it keeps chipping and shredding and rapidly recovers. I mainly only notice that it’s slowed down by looking at the...

Eric, Thank you for your detailed reply.

The torch “brazing” rod is some sort of zinc alloy. As Tinhack mentioned, it works OK for non-critical stuff. You can also gas weld aluminum with an oxyacetylene torch, aluminum mig wire and the right flux. It takes some practice to keep from melting your base metal into a gob but when it’s...

Phil, I’ve used thread on do it yourself high pressure hydraulic hose fittings. They work fine, but…using them is a project and not easily done out in the middle of a field. I recall they have an internal nipple that threads into the bore of the hose and an external sleeve that threads onto...

ERIC, What TIG machine do you have now? Is it one of the newer high tech inverter machines with all the many different settings and features? I have an ancient old Miller DialArc 250HF that I use for TIG and I’m wondering if it’s worthwhile to upgrade to a modern machine. Asking here since I...

Real watermelons with seeds in them.

Back to those 3 screws again. I think the gauge grounds through them. On mine there was some sort of factory applied clear varnish coating that prevented the ground. I took the screws out and cleaned where they made contact and wallah!

Appreciate all the replies. I think I’ll start with nothing on the rear since there happens to have nothing on it now. If Ineed ballast I’ll put on the box blade which I can add weight to. One advantage to having the backhoe attached is it’s a very good tool for getting unstuck.

Thank you for your replies. The backhoe is off now and I’ll leave it off when it’s time for snowblowing and see how it goes. Filling the rear tires is a good idea I’ve been meaning to get around to.

I have a Massey Ferguson GC1720 TLB (SCUT) that I use with a front mount snowblower in heavy wet “Sierra Cement” snow. I haven’t been removing the backhoe when snowblowing. I sometimes have trouble turning but all I have to do is raise the blower slightly and it will turn. I’ve been...

The newer models are no longer made by Iseki in Japan? I have a GC1720 and I’ve noticed that my neighbor’s GC1723 has more plastic but it looks basically the same as mine. Are you sure about India?

Not sure what your priorities are but it seems like you can find a profitable use for it, if you wanted to bad enough. I’d be inclined to keep it.

Dave, Yes, I saved the shaft. My plan was to remove it and save it in case I ever sold the tractor but I couldn’t figure out how to get it all the way off without doing more disassembly than I wanted to do. So, it’s still there, in one piece.

I have a GC1720 with a backhoe and the ends of the cross shaft butts up against the backhoe subframe on either side, making it impossible to remove so I took the right side backhoe subframe off. It wasn't too bad, maybe 8 or 10 bolts. Once the subframe was off I still couldn't take the cross...

Well, it's fixed and here's what I found. The fan itself was intact but the hub that it bolts to had come apart. You can see some tiny spot welds that failed. I suspect fatigue failure due to normal vibration. The fan and hub collar were spinning free on the shaft and the hub mounting...

Thanks Dave, I will never have a use for it but as a matter of principle I don’t like to destroy parts unless absolutely necessary.

Dave and WranglerX, thank you for your input, it's been very helpful. The new fan and hub are ordered and should be here tomorrow but I won't be working on it until Monday - I will post how it turns out!

I’ve been clearing brush and in spite of a home made skid plate something got past it and took out the cooling fan. I was dismayed when I tried to remove the old fan. The fan binds in the narrow gap between the floor pan and a cross shaft for the midmount mower control. I will never have a...

I have a used Bearcat 554 that I run with a Massey Ferguson GC1720 (19 PTO HP not including an altitude derate at 6,000 feet). I was concerned about the starting load but the little 3 cylinder motor handles it. I really like the shredder feature, chips come out very small for fast composting...

We’ve been incredibly lucky, no large fires in our immediate area. Yet. I have a Pirhana toothbar and it’s pretty effective for clearing.

Clearing brush to create more defensible space against fires. My GC1720 handles the Bearcat 554 chipper/ shredder just fine.

Gene, do you have a thread here about your seat mod? Thanks

When we were kids we called those steering wheel knobs “Brodie Knobs” because they were used for going into a sideways sliding stop on dirt roads, called a Brodie. Not sure where the rerm came from.

You guys getting the snow are fortunate. We got hammered pretty good in December but not a single millimeter of precipitation in January. First time that’s happened since they’ve been keeping records. Nothing predicted for February and they are talking drought. As for what I did with my GC...

Not in Reno itself. We are in an unincorporated area outside of town at close to 6,000 feet, the elevation is why we have so much snow. But every winter is different and has a life of its own.

Deja Vu all over again, a week later. Not new snow, we had a windstorm that redistributed last week’s snow. Heat wave now, in the 40F range and it’s melting fast.

Thanks. I’ve thought about adding something like that. I’ve got plenty of material so maybe a project to preoare for next winter.

Doing some serious snowblowing with a 63” blower on my GC1720. Works perfectly and plenty of power even at 6,000 feet elevation. Real happy with the blower and the GC1720.

I ain’t no physicist but I learned somewhere that if you look through a telescope that can see forever, you will see the back of your head. The James Webb telescope is a tremendous effort and I sure hope it is successful.

Best change ever! All we did was get rid of an old woodstove and replace it with a modern high efficiency stove. Made a surprising difference, not to mention it looks better and has a much nicer glass door.

Sorry about the rollover. Are you going to repair it? Did they call that frame ROP? Seems like sometimes they make a point of calling them names like light bar.

Yeah, it looks like they patterned the basic design after a hydraulic press. Hard to believe high school kids designed and built this thing without supervision or help. They are both friends of mine and one of them thinks like an engineer. He’s an industrial electrician and probably makes...

The original builders sharpened the wedge like the leading edge of an F-104. It slices right through knots and I have to be careful not to cut my fingers on it. Not sure what kind of steel or heat treat is on it but it stays sharp.

Here is my splitter. Built by a couple of friends when they were in high school 40+ years ago. Amazing piece of engineering for high school kids and it still works fine. The Wisconsin twin was surplus from the Alaskan pipeline project. I think they stole the hydraulic cylinder. The ram...

Can you post a picture?

Not that I don't trust dealers...but I don't trust dealers. I don't have my GC1720 in front of me but changing that steering cylinder is easy. Unless I'm missing something, you remove the two cheesy mounting plates on each side, disconnect the rod end fitting, disconnect the two hoses and...

I work the heck out of my GC1720, maxed out snowblowing and heavy loader and digging work. I’ve been using Lubrication Engineers 10W30 Ultra oil. It runs about $25 per gallon which I consider reasonable. Sure Walmart oil may work just as good, who knows, but I’m happy with what I’m using.

I think the equivalent Kubota was at least $4,000 more than my GC1720. The price, plus I like red, helped with the decision. No regrets or issues here either. It is a real workhorse.

Can you post a better picture and/or a link to the manufacturer? From here it looks like a simple mechanical tong that shouldn’t cost much more than $500.

We have a local Nevada State Railroad Museum that takes used oil to burn in their steam locomotive. That’s where mine goes.

Hooked up the snowblower and moved some snow.

Yesterday I hooked up the snowblower on my GC1720 and while putting the tire chains on I noticed that the steering cylinder was loose and rattling around in its brackets and the inner tie rod joints had about an eighth of an inch in and out play in them. A search shows that I'm not the first GC...

Sorry for the delay. It's pretty simple and I remove it in the winter to hook up the front driveshaft for a snowblower. Have to also remove it for changing the filter but it's only 4 bolts. I made it out of a scrap of steel of unknown parentage that I had laying around. Lots of big rocks...

Got up at 0400 yesterday to run the GC1720 with snowblower up and down the road. Everything worked fine, went into town, came back and it was still snowing so I decided to make a other pass on the road. Starter would not crank. Turns out the PTO neutral safety switch was iced up and stuck in...

Here is a simple option from The Thumb - Add-on Grapple Attachments. It has been useful and I leave it on most all the time, just raise it when I just need the bucket. Kind of an apples to oranges comparison to a dedicated grapple but I have been happy with mine.

Here are a couple of Blue on Red pictures. The blower is a New Holland CS63. It took a little bit of fabricating to the mount bracket working right. The mounting system is longer and reaches underneath the tractor, in contrast to the standard MF2360 mounting bracket that bolts to the front of...

Hello, I just finished installing a snow blower in my MF GC1720. I have a question concerning the hydraulics. Do you guys with tractors that have a loader �loat feature, do you use that for snowblowing? I have a mile or so to clear, some of it gravel but most of it is a plain old dirt...

Here's my snow weapon. Fortunately or unfortunately it's still parked in the weeds this winter and I don't have a picture of it at work. This time last year we were buried, this year we've had maybe 2" of snow. It's based on an '83 Chevy one ton and the blower is hydraulically powered by a...

I知 looking at a used 63 wide front mount PTO snowblower for my GC1720. The blower is from a larger 30HP compact tractor and I will have some adapting and fabrication to do on the mount. I知 a little bit concerned about the blower width. It is a foot wider than the 登fficial MF2360 blower and...

Here is a picture of the loader bucket sticker. The loader arms have a Made in USA sticker, it's just the bucket itself that's made in China. Same with the backhoe, the backhoe mechanism is Made in USA, just the backhoe bucket is made in China. The backhoe subframe also carries a made in...

I understand that the GC1710 reaches its rated HP at 2600 RPM. Is there a rev limiter that keeps the RPM at 2600 max, or can you go above 2600? Thanks!