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yea i know this thread is almost 7 years old...but this info may help the next guy. i just did it...not that hard. Remove or loosen the flare nut and loosen the retainer nut on the adapter fitting where it passes through the frame. This will allow the hose to swivel as neither end is a swivel...

Here's a great opportunity for an image......a sausage bread image. It doesn't sound bad, but it sounds like.... it looks better then it sounds. I read it twice, it makes sense.

That's exactly what happened. I took it to a hydraulic shop and they rebuilt it. Now it's leaking again. Was it 6 years ago?

Ford New Holland 1920 Power steering cylinder.

Did you know..... That machine probably has a safety circuit that won't allow the machine to start unless the machine is in neutral, someone is sitting in the seat with the clutch depressed? Sometimes those switches fail or get moved or broken. You really need to get the meter like Willy said...

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I like peanut butter. I keep a jar around, a small one lasts several weeks. I use it for many things including curry. Regarding the odor....I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about..get some help.

I watched the film this evening. I guessed it was just released on YouTube. The film was about the homeless problem in Seattle. It was clear that these people are also drug addicts. The point is that by allowing this homeless problem to continue, the city is inadvertently contributing to the...

Somebody tell me what this thread is about..... I may want to participate.

I hear that.....I had to look for my sweater this morning...it was 42F ....I actually had to wear shoes ....AND SOCKS!

I got a Rolex submariner oyster perpetual. I have had it for 4 years and it's never been out of the box. I think it has an inscription on the back, but I've never looked at it. If you think you need one, let me know. I'd sell it.

It was 87F here today.

Executing that pursuit without first watching this documentary would be a mis---steak. The best steaks were sold to Saudi kings and were from Bulls....not steers, raised for 15 years. The Bulls were selected for thier character and disposition rather than the breed. A happy bull makes the best...

SEE POST #4 I have been contemplating why radios 1 thinks he's the only one to use google maps.....I can't imagine the audacity! I guess it his academic achievements...... https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/members/radios1.html Yea.... that's it... he's an.... "Engineer"

His skills are clearly a result of his experience and his passion, but what impressed me was his patience. He has a channel with some very useful stuff too. I have watched 3 of his videos and it's clear hes been doing this for some time....... I mean how many people do you know who have a carb...

I just found this guy on Youtube today. He's got a habit that more than a few of us here have, but he's got it bad. If he's not the best shade tree mechanic on youtube, he's on the short list. This is over 50 minutes and it was hard for me to stop watching it so....you've been warned.

I wish I was quoted 76.66$ I remember having problems with pricing the last time I filled this tank. Thanks yomax4 Unfortunately....Airgas has this area locked up. There are no other options that I can find.

How much should it cost to get my tank refilled or an exchange for it? I own the tank. I haven't bought gas in a while and just got a price from airgas that was twice what I paid last time. I just need a benchmark Thanks

There are things in life you need to worry about..... This is not one of them.

He'll figure it out.......just leave it alone. Watch for signs of infection, but I'm guessing that tooth will be gone soon and you will be wondering why you were worried.

Not the best way to enter the worst part of hurricane season. Lots of people are having flooding already

Hmmmm ......sounds like traveling in one of those vessels is not what it's all quacked up to be.

I don't know what to say about this other than I was pretty sure is was going to be an epic fail. Seems like hiring a stump grinder is still a smart option. But it's an interesting video.....

Your right.....that doe is is pregnant. The rut in FL is pretty much continous, or it happens at different times from county to county. I've seen spotted fawns in September.

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This^except the oil..I don't put a pan in the cupboard with oil on it. I oil the pan before i use it to cook Wash it just like any other pan. Potatoes! Salt? Why? It's the only pan I use.....works great...even for omelettes.

Pond dye.....makes anyplace magic.....

I have had a costco membership for quite a while. I liked AMEX....but as soon as I saw CITI bank I was on edge. I dealt with them 20 years ago and cut ties then. I don't like CITI either. I have to keep on top of things....I don't trust them either.

That's the hardest part about keeping a dog. Might not seem like it right now Rob, but you're a lucky man. You had a great companion for a long time. It takes a while to get used to not having your friend but you can be thankful for time you shared with your dog. You're a better person for it.

I have a solar dryer. I don't have to think about such things.

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE! Two? The new tracks have as many as 6! Its ridiculous! Something has to be. We have airbags everywhere, but we can't see the road at night.

Looks like you're having fun Metza. Johnson is an American brand....I have 2 at the moment. One thing is bothering me........no fishing poles. What's up with that?

You could not get enough to make it worthwhile. Chickens and eggs are cheap, there is not enough money there.

Does it have a time/date stamp? That's pretty important. 59$ is cheap but you need the time and date

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This is what I thought this thread was about....good wholesome entertainment!

I have never seen the show, so I don't know what it stands for, so I did not vote. I like Tim Allen, but the home improvement rif got old for me. I thought his Star Trek knock off film "Galaxy Quest" was great.

No it's not

Rope. Ratchet straps are for girls and bungee cords are for losers. :thumbsup::newhere:

I heard that there are a lot of aliens in Texas. That is all

Prep and paint the table with the primer, put it on the porch and say "Now it's ready to paint". See what happens...... If the paint doesn't hold up, treat the bad spots, reprime and paint. If the porch is covered, you're probably not going to touch that table again except when you grab your...

The Withlacoochee River....drought conditions...... 9 months ago this would have been over my head....full of fish, frogs and turtles

CSB...

It's the term most water purveyors give to the method of preventing contamination to a closed system subject to connections with pressure higher than that of the water system.

That looks like sch 10 pvc .....is it sch 10? How long is the run? What is the static pressure?

So the line is connected to the municipal water system......and it wasn't inspected. How about a back flow preventer? Is there any cross connection control?

What is the static pressure? Is it possible something chewed through the pipe before it was pressurized? Typically a line like that would require a permit and subsequent inspection. The pipe is usually pressure tested and this is documented. Was the line hydrostatically tested?

It was 99F here on Sunday. That's 31.2 C

Based on my knowledge of turds....dimensionally. I would not spend the money to upsize at this point in time. My experience goes back quite a few years, however it is limited. I suppose you could say my opinion about **** is worth ****. But....after all, we are talking about ****. Hope this helps

I have to admit it.........I am amazed. I did not think the bx was enough tractor to get the job done.

This^ Makes short work of it.

Try an electric carving knife with WD 40

Good job on the fix Metz.....I think we both know .....You either need 2 back hoes or one stronger backhoe. I also think we should see more of the dog......we love our dogs in the USA. tell us about your dog..........

But......what about the faucet police?

Your going to drive past 10000 dogs that need a home to get a puppy in Canada. There is no way you can convince me that this is a good idea, but that's your business. Good luck.

WOW......You made that alt belt change look hard.....:D. Did I just learn some new Finish cuss words :confused3::confused3: :thumbsup:? I especially like the way your face gets all twisted when you concentrate. Do you think the engine gets more air with the new filter or the old? Good job Metza!

Dam right

That's my parking space, Officer......and that's my tree across the street...sir.

I would ask your "official" for specifications or a list of approved manufacturers. Depending on what type of pipe the well casing is made of there will be cheaper options. If it is ductile iron or steel you could use a megalug with an M.J. cap. If it's cast iron then a hub fitting might work...

What about the prop? What was the difference between the 2 blade and the three blade? Is it faster? How about the landings? Seems like any more than three would be a waste? Just get in the way.......

big-un The lowest branch is 34" from dirt

Selling something on CL requires a lot of patience. I think the rate of responses to sales is greater than 20-1. You just have keep reposting and responding, if you item is sellable...eventually it will go. You have to remember that CL is a magnet for people with a whole bunch of time on their...

That column holds up the whole corner of the structure. Gulp..... That sucks......you could add a couple of posts on either side to sure it up against the impending failure.

I know Where that was taken.....

Don't much matter.... it's a wood boring insect. I would replace with pt and inspect the rest of the building... If that's the only damage then it could be ants. Carpenter ants eat rotten wood. If you see them...you're good.

WOW! I had ham for breakfast....so weird....

I'm sure your English is much, much better than my Finnish would be. I would not even attempt to try and speak your language. I think it's commendable that you can speak 2 language's at all.

I enjoyed the video. I am left wondering about the cab temperature. Your struggles with the English language make it hard for me to understand if there is forced air over the muffler or what the cabin temp is or more importantly, the differential between ambient air and cabin air. I think your...

Assuming you looked into getting another wife and decided against that solution..... Try 1 part hand cleaner and 1 part laundry soap. you're welcome

I'm sure he is very good at something.......look at all the books.....and a homemade Dobro?... He plays better than I do. Maybe with some background vocals and a percussion section........saxaphone?

I made it 38 seconds.....I think you know why.

I didn't see anyone carrying it up the hill.

Thanks K

How much can you get for a coon pelt? Seems to me the last time I checked you needed a license to sell fur. I have sold many coons, pelt-free, leaving a foot on to prove it's not a cat. They can get large here... 25-30 lbs. I would get 10-20$ each.

I think I found it.....there is a lot of information and editable settings on that website. Try it again,

Do you recall where that setting is?

Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I don't know much about you tube :thumbsup: It plays fine for me, but maybe because it's my channel? I think I fixed that....let me know as I can not verify.

I don't know if they were rabid or not, i don't know much about the virus and it's symptoms especially when it comes to raccoons. Try the video again, a picture is worth a thousand words, a video must be worth a million.

I don't necessarily agree with that, however if I had problems with raccoons at home, on my property, I would certainly take whatever steps necessary to mitigate the problem. Where I live we are overrun with opossums so I understand the mindset, these raccoons were on a large parcel of public...

We don't have apples here, it's doubtful that this little guy would even recognize it as food. I see your from Washington...apples are like oranges there. These three were a couple of miles from a paved road, no houses, dumpsters, or garbage cans within miles. As far as I could tell they were...

I'll take that bet.

Raccoon fun I came across these three little trouble makers out having some fun last Monday. Did not see Mom.

To whom is "the task" assigned?

What is interesting is that we are getting a North American weather prediction from someone in Australia, who got it from the Buffalo Valley Kiawanis club in Pennsylvania.:confused3::confused3:

Dam pigs! I guess.....

I liked it. Good job. Great music, and outstanding production value considering... In English......the proper way to ask for subscription would be.....Please Subscribe!

And... if you have never met her. You really can't judge that assessment, now can you?

You didn't say what size pex but I have made repairs using vacuum or heater hose and one or 2 hose clamps. Slit the hose lengthwise and wrap around the leak.....secure with clamps. As long as the interior diameter of the hose is slightly smaller than the O.D. of the pex it seals tight. I usually...

Hey! there is a tractor in the video.....This is for Metza

fresh, ripe, tomatoes need nothing.... Maybe a couple of slices of bread....a cold beer...

Lost power for 7-8 hours starting around 7:45pm. A few minutes earlier I heard a helicopter landing on the roof.....I open the door to look out and quickly rethought that decision......it was not a helicopter......nowhere to hide:eek:. Lots of trees down, closing roads and debris everywhere...

How convenient...what with Thanksgiving right around the corner. You need to start fattening them up for the holiday.

Do you have paint to match the color? Or, are going to repaint boom? There is an opportunity for self expression here.......

Wow did not take long, back in service tomorrow? We call that a "Gorilla weld" here. Are the pins lining up straight and square?

Lot of grinding to reuse existing yoke. I would check with Kellfrie and get pricing on new boom or new yoke. Send them link to video and tell them how much net time you have on this machine,,,,discounting prices would be good for their business. I know I was going to buy 3 but now that I see...

Raccoons will urinate and dedicate on food to keep other coons away. Perhaps your truck smelled of food an a coon pissed on your roof. Hose down the door frames.... You did have the windows closed and the doors locked right?

Nonsense... A bear follows it's nose through it's "range". It's there because it smells something tasty. It should have a natural fear of humans, this can be lost when the bear comes to associate the smell of humans with food.

Someone is feeding it or not keeping the garbage secured. A recipe for regret. I suggest they find out why that bear is up in the yard and get that issue resolved before an incident occurs.

He's right. I subscribed ........last year? And it just occurred to me that "videos" is the first place I check on TBN, looking for Metsman videos. It's been that way for a year or so. Don't change a thing Metsa. Just keep doing what you do.

I have tears in my eyes ....I laughed so hard. Glad you didn't get hurt. You have cat-like reflexes. Is the drone o.k.? Did I just hear some Finnish curse words?

Well... Whatever you do...don't read the reviews on Amazon regarding that machine now that you have bought it. Hope you are editing your maiden flight video now...

Carl XVI Gustaf King of Sweden Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Oh boy! Euro banter! Don't see that much around here...... Please continue.. We may have to move this to Friendly politics ;) President Niinisto meets with President Putin: Downward spiral must be...

What am I? A genius?

I am highly allergic to just about any poisonous plant you can think of, but I don't let them stop me You just need to understand how Urushiol works. You have the right idea with the cheap paint suit. After coming in contact or as soon as possible, or the sooner the better, get those clothes...

Have you ever wondered how long your Monday is and how your weekends fly by so fast? The Dutch have brought a whole new meaning to the fast weekends by getting a complete tunnel built under a highway in one weekend.

OH! IT'S AN ELECTRICAL QUESTION!

I can bearly see it.....

Your getting a lot of help here. I suggest you submit your package to our forum for preliminary review, before you go any further. We will need plans and manufacturers data sheets on all materials considered, don't forget foundation/column details and structural calculations. This will not only...

A new carb will not fix incorrectly assembled anything. The carburetor provides the correct fuel/air mixture for proper combustion.

Price a new carburetor. You my find that it's less hassle to replace than to fix. Hard to say what may help with no pictures of your engine. You can probably get one from amazon delivered in a week or so. get the serial and model numbers from the engine, search for part numbers the prices. You...

Hey Metsaman! How is the ankle? Got a grill eh? Now you need some beer. Beef does not look like that here. Beef comes from Bovinea...Bovinae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Either you need to talk to your butcher, or I need to talk to mine...cause that looks like pork to me. I use a grill...

Just seeing a woman in the seat makes me nervous. Never met one that could operate safely. I'm sure that they are out there.....just not lucky enough to cross paths yet.

Where is the pressure switch?

Does not look like a "pressure tank" to me either. Looks like a storage tank. Could it be that there is another tank on the system somewhere? I think the ports are so the tank can be used in different configurations. It probably had a jacuzzi pump at one time.

I think it's fair....by no means a steal. With a service history.... Probably means the hours are correct and it's not a rental... If that's enough tractor for you, I would examine it carefully and make an offer. your link doesn't work.

I like Amazon too. it definetly pays to shop prices on parts. Most of the parts I get are from Amazon. Tremendous inventory.... Sometimes it's not worth it to buy online, but most of the time convience is the deciding factor

I have one. It's black, about 60" tall and about 36 wide. It was the only model they had and it was priced well, so I bought it. They may be of better quality now or in your area....and this one was not high end,but I did get it at Costco.....it still works fine but.... It has not performed well...

Worst vehicle I ever owned was a 1970 Volkswagen 411. It was about 4 years old when I got it. It was a huge mistake and I sold it after several months. I cannot even consider the purchase of a Volkswagen because of that choice. The best vehicle is a little tougher decision. I have had many. I...

Sum Ting Wong has been into his sake cups again. Better call a cab... Oh.. and give his wife a call and tell her not to keep dinner warm, he's going to be gone a bit longer then expected.

Down here the biggest culprit is always birds. They can clear a field in a matter of hours if the flock is big enough.

The fire spread really quickly and is now claiming over 300 square miles. I's hard to get your mind around that. Check out how far and how fast it spread using the link below. It pretty much surrounded the townin 36 hours. Makes it hard to decide whether to and where to fight the fire.... or...

There but by the grace of god, go I. LiveLeak.com - Fire 'rains' down in Fort McMurray neighbourhood during escape Fort McMurray Wildfire: Thousands Evacuated as Blaze Spreads South - NBC News

5 years is not long enough..... That is very sad. I looked at the pictures and it brought a tear to my eye, friend. You were lucky to have her. I'm sorry she was taken so young. It's a hard loss.

Thanks for posting....comrade

I saw a bald eagle about a mile from my house last week....no big deal in these parts. We have lots of them. Mostly eat fish here, It's less risky that mammals. Eagles are relatively fragile and like most raptors, won't take chances unless it's absolutely necessary.

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This is a good time to be a beer drinker. There are countless different kinds of beers available from all over the world and the number seems to increase every time I venture into the beer store. There are at least 2 stores within 10 miles that have over 1000 different choices for beer. you can...

Guess what...this wasn't the first time :eek: I googled "Hugh Yard". Apparently this misspelling happens a lot, in all parts of the country. https://www.google.com/#q=hugh+yard&start=0

Maybe Hugh can't spell...... His last name is Yard......and he makes sails.....huge sails....using yards of fabric...

I took the picture.

Perhaps.....and the author didn't know enough to add an apostrohe and an "s"'? Maybe it's Hugh Hefner's house....and he decided to move into a mobile home. No doubt...... that's a less egregious, grammatical infraction. I suppose I could forgive Hef...

How would it make you feel if .....you had a yard sale named after you? I'm sure Hugh is pleased. the other side is identical

Why didnt you post this in the hydraulics thread? Politics would be bettter then here.

A little dicey going through the slough there. :eek: That not the safest way to travel in those conditions. Did you have the rear tires chained? Didn't look to cold and the sun was out....

Thanks for the review, good video....you should know that I have a hard time disseminating your accent. It would help if the music was lower and you talked slower. I could not tell if your evaluation was favorable or not on some of the various component designs. I was disappointed somewhat...

81F 31C Here today :}

they didn't ask anything....

This one...#9 left me a bit perplexed. His record provides no reason for "apprehension." and that is it....not even a question mark. Your choices..... Endorsement Anxiety Change Enjoyment Heh?

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Yo .... Who's is clearing the snow off the roof now? How are you doing? Did the roof collapse on you? Don't make me come over there! Give us an update....

Well..... I guess the bright side is, we will be seeing more of you here for a few weeks . I look forward to seeing all of the differnt colors your ankle will become. It does take a long time to heal but the ice will help it get better, faster.

Your Welcome....glad you enjoyed it.

I think I started this thread.... I got your hijack....right here. http://vid1093.photobucket.com/albums/i424/vinniereno/20d103cf.mp4

Maybe metsaman can tell where it is. Might take a few seconds to load.....

Berry farmers around here ( and there are a lot in these parts) are worried about birds more than deer. I have been told that a flock can get all your berries in a matter of hours. Some use cannons, some use rockets.... Flocks of birds terrorize Florida blueberry crop | The Packer

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Is this still his site?

Cab? I don't think you could get a taxi in Manitoba. Ummm...that looks more like an uber tractor to me.

Stop washing the car.

KEEP SHOVELING!

We have lots here in Florida. Since they are nocturnal, most people only see regular (grey) squirrels. I have had them in my trees stand at night. The are extremely fast, make a peep like vocalization frequently, and have red eye shine. A big one is 4" long here. They are small animals, but even...

That's what Buzzards do. You see that in many places in the U.S. It just looks strange to you only because you haven't seen it before. Hinkley Ohio has Buzzards in the thousands roost there every year. A Cleveland bedroom community, when I lived there in the 70's the local radio station used the...

How long did it take for the parts to arrive? Unless I really needed it quick, I think those charges are excessive. For that price it should have arrived the next day or next business day. I guess my point is, you may have gotten your moneys worth but you may have paid for something you didn't need.

I'll bet it hurt when white shirt guy get's clobbered with the bucket at 1:50. Yea that hurt.... I couldn't tell if everyone gets out of the water after it slips into the water like an Anhinga....

Item # 1 :eek:

Since you know where the dog orignated.......It is most likely the brother of the one your neglectful neighbor lost......Thats why one could eaily mistake one for the other......they are twin brothers Get it? If your neighbor says anything you ask him where he got the dog......and then its like...

If your mom wants to have a dog, she should consider keeping this one. Red healers can be very smart dogs. If she doesnt want a dog then you would be doing the dog a favor by finding a home for it. I don't think you should give dog back to the peiple that had it before you....under any...

Thats nice......I have an organ I would like her to play. It's old but it still works...

It's your dog, keep it. Ask me about the money......

29 celsius this afternoon here.....no snow

My biggest concern with a machine coming from China is not performance....it the availability of spare parts. I have experience with other Chinese products...they will hold you hostage.....driving the overall operating costs to a place that is unacceptable. This makes renting the smart way to...

I would replace the plugs and the coils... all of them.

Are they in pots? Cause if they're not, you have an up hill battle. I have done so many times and it's very common to see people here trying to keep sensitive plants alive through a cold snap in Florida. I no longer try to beat mother nature and now I plant what she wants me to and my life is...

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Thonotosassa A small town north of Tampa....don't bother.

That inevitability is the worst part of keeping a dog, although having such a partner is well worth the struggles that follow it. You were truly blessed to have experience.

Insufficient voltage to the solenoid. Get your meter out and check the battery. Remove battery cables, wire brush both cables and terminals and replace. You may need a new battery.....

if you need a snatch rope....don't scrimp. Get a kinetic recovery strap....1" I have seen them in action and it's the way to go...no worries. the longer the better. Master Super-Yanker Kinetic Recovery Rope

Yes you did and I believe your application is adequate in this case. When you have small wheels traveling at high speeds, the rpm increases exponentially. This will cause more heat and wear, so getting the grease in between the rollers is important in my opinion. This is how I do it..... YMMV

Things could be worse eh? Good thing you did not have an accident. There is usually a cotter pin that should be installed keeping the axle nut in place. I did not see this but it appears that the spindle has the required hole and the nut is shaped to accommodate. If I were you I would take the...

my lines are slightly different in length, although you could probably still cross them if you were really having a bad day (about 5/8" difference). Seems I got it right.

Thanks for that...I just watched it today. Mine is a little different....easier to come off the tractor, but my seal kit would cost more than twice what he paid. Today I picked up the cylinder from the hydraulic shop in town....about 7 miles away. I brought it to the shop on Monday and they...

just pay cash

No.... it can't be changed. At least not by me, I tried right after I posted it. Edit I just tried it again and you're right.....have to go to "Go advanced"

It was difficult....every time I look at the map of Africa I see a country that I don't remember seeing the last time. I don't remember my score but it wasn't passing.\ Seems to me there is not much good happens there as of late or anytime I remember in my life time. For years the western part...

:thumbsup: A little faster and a little deeper and you just might have him.....:confused2:

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I have been looking at the videos and I noticed....no smoke at all even under a load. That's good for 1866 hours. and it looks good too.....

Would not tow very much, very well, like that. And you could not see where you were going very well.

Ahhh yes..... shrews...Perhaps a ....pair of shrews....large ones....we call them "horse shrews" here. That my friend, is a very, very, shrewd deduction...

Not much traffic there....not like here. What time of day was that trip?

Your right... The risk outweighs the reward..... This is dangerous...bordering on foolish. It seems the work space is small, but when you add up the costs of getting that machine out of the hole.... verses taking another approach to moving the dirt, leaving a level staging area....or using a...

I have seen lots of hogs that had yellow fat. We always theorized it was from the abundant water oaks and the acorns they drop. The flesh of those acorns is a yellow orange color. When the mast is heavy, the hogs will get a yellow hue to their fat. That blue color occurs in nature, but rarely as...

Green eggs and ham? NOPE! Blue bacon and eggs anyone? I think I'll skip breakfast. Behold.......the blue fat hog. A first... I believe. The Weird Pig - Album on Imgur A mysterious pig with blue fat was found and the Internet is confused

Mr. DFB Please share....

So be it...people need to see this. Did you watch the hour long video? It's an eye opener.

I would like to think of myself as "informed".....but apparently, I'm uninformed or misinformed. I've been hearing this word a lot lately (monsanto). I got up this morning and this video was playing on the computer on my kitchen table. I started watching and it didn't take long before I...

It sure seems like ignorance.... I always find it appalling when I see someone driving in the left lane, under the speed limit, with no cars if front of them, making people pass on the right. It's just common sense to keep to the right. I generally prefer to drive just under the speed limit...